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    All at JackArmy.net would like to thank everyone who has played a part on this site over the past 25 years whether that is through writing, contributing, moderating, posting or just visting and reading.

    Without any of you the work that has gone into the site would have been pointless and we will always be proud that we built, generated and managed a community that was such a big part of the Swansea City supporting life for so long.

    It has been a pleasure to bring to you the site for so long but the time is now right to turn the lights out for the last time but we do it both with a heavy heart and a sense of pride driven by the so many messages received since we announced the closure.

    The site will remain here for a period until we archive and mothball it for the last time later this summer but all aspects are in a read only format.

    Thank you though for all the memories

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Old Fred's original post appears to be backed up by an article on one of the other forums which has caused quite the stir I see.

Changes could be afoot then, although everyone is coy on how that looks in reality.

So what are the possibilities?

1) Club sold lock stock - who's going to pay enough to see the owners make some money on what they paid initially and what they've all put in since though?

2) K&L (or the LLC) are removed / bought out by the likes of Kravatt / Morris? But Morris has been diluted with the recent money injections and chose not match it and maintain his stake. Maybe he has his own reasons why he didn't put money in, but is prepared to now? Kravatt is American, you'd think he's got a relationship with the LLC (is he part of it?). How much would a Morris take over cost him to remove K&L? Not sure why he'd bother?

3) More 'investors' coming on board. Most likely, but how much will things actually change in the running of the club unless this new investors put so much in that it means the LLC is not the largest shareholder anymore?

Apologies for the speculative ramblings.
 
Old Fred's original post appears to be backed up by an article on one of the other forums which has caused quite the stir I see.

Changes could be afoot then, although everyone is coy on how that looks in reality.

So what are the possibilities?

1) Club sold lock stock - who's going to pay enough to see the owners make some money on what they paid initially and what they've all put in since though?

2) K&L (or the LLC) are removed / bought out by the likes of Kravatt / Morris? But Morris has been diluted with the recent money injections and chose not match it and maintain his stake. Maybe he has his own reasons why he didn't put money in, but is prepared to now? Kravatt is American, you'd think he's got a relationship with the LLC (is he part of it?). How much would a Morris take over cost him to remove K&L? Not sure why he'd bother?

3) More 'investors' coming on board. Most likely, but how much will things actually change in the running of the club unless this new investors put so much in that it means the LLC is not the largest shareholder anymore?

Apologies for the speculative ramblings.
My thoughts are we'll keep plodding along the way we are. Can't see the club being sold anytime soon, although I'd be very happy to be proven wrong. These are just my observations.

Skim read the article, doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. I honestly don't understand why they get so defensive when people disagree with what they've written.

Why put something in the public domain if you're going to get so aggressive about peoples opinions on it.
 
My thoughts are we'll keep plodding along the way we are. Can't see the club being sold anytime soon, although I'd be very happy to be proven wrong. These are just my observations.

Skim read the article, doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. I honestly don't understand why they get so defensive when people disagree with what they've written.

Why put something in the public domain if you're going to get so aggressive about peoples opinions on it.

Smoke without fire and all that. But then again there has been a steady stream of rumours (and actual changes) in relation to the clubs hierarchy since the Americans arrived.
 
Smoke without fire and all that. But then again there has been a steady stream of rumours (and actual changes) in relation to the clubs hierarchy since the Americans arrived.
Hopefully the smoke does become fire. The one thing that does worry me is any potential new owners being worse than the current bunch if that's posisble.
 
My thoughts are we'll keep plodding along the way we are. Can't see the club being sold anytime soon, although I'd be very happy to be proven wrong. These are just my observations.

Skim read the article, doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. I honestly don't understand why they get so defensive when people disagree with what they've written.

Why put something in the public domain if you're going to get so aggressive about peoples opinions on it.
Aye, not football related, but a source close to me has indicated that the sun will set tonight at 18.15 and rise again tomorrow morning at 07.47.
More to follow... 😂
 
Aye, not football related, but a source close to me has indicated that the sun will set tonight at 18.15 and rise again tomorrow morning at 07.47.
More to follow... 😂
My source tells me there may or may not be a little of rain as well.

If you'd don't like what I've written I am going to track you down and smash all your teeth in. 👊🏼
 
Hopefully the smoke does become fire. The one thing that does worry me is any potential new owners being worse than the current bunch if that's posisble.

It is definitely possible to have worse unfortunately.
 

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