Season 21/22 The Official Swansea City v Fulham FC Match Thread

[sainthelens]

Let's be honest, we were well in the game but once again we press the self destruct button. Wether a sending off or not, Manning can be a fckn liability and come Legoland he'd do that again.
WTF was said at half time to then concede straight away beggars belief.
We knew Fulham were capable of doing that but FFS don't hand it to em.
More annoying than disappointing.

 

[Risc]

Yeah it does when people are trying to claim we weren’t, it’s up for debate.

The red completely changed the game, then Fisher inexplicably launching the ball at grimes the first few seconds of second half killed it.

There was absolutely nothing in it first half. This nonsense about us being ‘better’ as though we were creating chance after chance is nonsense. The commentators doing the whole ‘who’d know who’s at the top’ is just embarrassing. They comprehensively stuffed us home and away. If we accept that we stand a chance at improving.

No one has said we were creating chance after chance, that’s something you seem to have made up in your head.

We had the better of the game, moved them around, didn’t have much at all to defend, had more of the ball, all without two wing backs we have relied on heavily for an outlet. We looked more than comfortable.

As soon as Manning was sent off the whole game changed though and the quality they have killed us, they were bringing Tom Cairney on for a player who Liverpool only missed out on signing in January due to a paperwork error.

If memory serves the first game changed when Mitro put them 1 up from an offside position which was clear as day. We don’t need to “stand a chance of improving”, we are improving, all of the time and will continue to next season I have zero doubt.

 

[LeonWasTheDog's]

Against Blackburn we defended for our lives when down to 10 men. I reckon then the players took responsibility as it happened after half time. We probably would have still lost against Fulham but to give them a goal after 15 seconds begs the question what instructions were given by RM at half time. If he told them no nonsense guys its Fisher to blame. If he told them to continue playing the same way that's naive and he takes the can.

Our ‘reorganisation’ definitely worked against us, taking Naughton’s calmness out of the middle. Not that we had much choice though given we’re lacking players. But even so, you can’t legislate for brain farts from players. They needed a ‘though shall not pass’ attitude at the start of that second half, but then Martin probably doesn’t want them to play that way does he.

 

[cmajack]

Honestly it doesn't matter one f**k... 5-1 does.

Yeah it does when people are trying to claim we weren’t, it’s up for debate.

The red completely changed the game, then Fisher inexplicably launching the ball at grimes the first few seconds of second half killed it.

Red cards don't have to change games. MK dons had a man sent off and went 1-0 down from the resulting penalty at League leaders Rotherham on Saturday, but guess what they won 2-1 . It is difficult with a man short but it's not impossible to get something out of the game as proved against Blackburn. What shouldn't happen is you concede 5 and get absolutely thumped . It's nothing short of a disgrace.

 

[K23]

Yeah it does when people are trying to claim we weren’t, it’s up for debate.

The red completely changed the game, then Fisher inexplicably launching the ball at grimes the first few seconds of second half killed it.

Red cards don't have to change games. MK dons had a man sent off and went 1-0 down from the resulting penalty at League leaders Rotherham on Saturday, but guess what they won 2-1 . It is difficult with a man short but it's not impossible to get something out of the game as proved against Blackburn. What shouldn't happen is you concede 5 and get absolutely thumped . It's nothing short of a disgrace.

Agreed, giving in like that is totally unprofessional.

 

[Risc]

Yeah it does when people are trying to claim we weren’t, it’s up for debate.

The red completely changed the game, then Fisher inexplicably launching the ball at grimes the first few seconds of second half killed it.

Red cards don't have to change games. MK dons had a man sent off and went 1-0 down from the resulting penalty at League leaders Rotherham on Saturday, but guess what they won 2-1 . It is difficult with a man short but it's not impossible to get something out of the game as proved against Blackburn. What shouldn't happen is you concede 5 and get absolutely thumped . It's nothing short of a disgrace.

No it doesn’t I agree but when your keeper has a mind blank like that 10 seconds into first half it takes what your protecting away from you. Took all the fight out of us and Fulham have too much quality to let teams like us off the hook.

 

[PSumbler]

In the first half we were comfortable but that was largely driven by Fulham being happy to have the ball - other than the long range effort from Obafemi we created nothing. They created more than we did.

The red card didnt turn the game what did was the complete brain freeze defending in the first 10 minutes of the second half. BEnnett and Cabango at the centre must be the slowest centre half pairing in history and we decided at 2-0 down to retreat any deeper.

We were simply dreadful in the second half and if the commentator ever said "you wouldnt know who was top" then I suggest they start commentating on a different sport

 

[Pegojack]

Up until the red card, I felt our game plan was working pretty well and we'd arguably created the best chance. I was feeling reasonably optimistic until Manning's red mist.
And then, 30 seconds into the second half, Fisher presses the self destruct button again with one of his ridiculous hard clearances to a Swans player running towards him with the opposition breathing down their neck. For feck's sake, forget keeping possession, just feckin LAUNCH IT UPFIELD. This is getting to be a serious problem now, it's like he's lost all his football common sense and judgement.

 

[Bryanswan]

Red card with 60 odd to play against a side walking the league, with Mitrovic up top who has already broken the league goals record?
Did anyone seriously at that point think we would get anything out of the game?
We've had two good results Vs baggies and Coventry and 1st half was decent vs best in the league, I'd say we have definitely improve a bit as of late. But again these things take time.
Hopefully the board dont sell half the team from under RM in the summer.

 

[Uxy]

We're all aware we conceded 5 goals in 45 minutes, right?

That's not normal. It's not a learning process when it comes to that sort of thing. That's organisation.

And, let's be honest, it's not the first time we've conceded a glut of chances and goals. If anything, we've been lucky this is our first five.

Saying that, we looked good for 30 minutes. But consistency has been an issue.

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

Honestly it doesn't matter one f**k... 5-1 does.

Yeah it does when people are trying to claim we weren’t, it’s up for debate.

The red completely changed the game, then Fisher inexplicably launching the ball at grimes the first few seconds of second half killed it.

You do know there is a reason why they are number 1 and we are number sixteen right? So what you are saying is we were the better losing team tonight? There was a very good chance they would of beaten us without a red card. They are a much better team than us there's no shame in that.

 

[Captain_Sham]

Like a fking yo-yo we are.

 

[JackFish]

We're all aware we conceded 5 goals in 45 minutes, right?

That's not normal. It's not a learning process when it comes to that sort of thing. That's organisation.

And, let's be honest, it's not the first time we've conceded a glut of chances and goals. If anything, we've been lucky this is our first five.

Saying that, we looked good for 30 minutes. But consistency has been an issue.

Yeah, it easy to say it’s a one off against a really good side, but it’s not a one off is it, we’ve had plenty of thumpings this season although mostly not at home. Fulham, Bournemouth, Forest & Sheffield Utd have all scored 4+ against us and even Stoke have dicked us 3-0 twice. Signs of improvement in the last two games and the last few home games in particular but still lots to improve on if we’re going to be a top 10 team next season.

 

[Glyn1]

Conceding 5 goals at home is unacceptable in any way, shape or form. We should have defended better but this is the manager's fault more than Manning's (who still needs a slap - 2 red cards in a season, OK it's a risk that comes with his position, but 2?).

 

[3swan]

We're all aware we conceded 5 goals in 45 minutes, right?

That's not normal. It's not a learning process when it comes to that sort of thing. That's organisation.

And, let's be honest, it's not the first time we've conceded a glut of chances and goals. If anything, we've been lucky this is our first five.

Saying that, we looked good for 30 minutes. But consistency has been an issue.

No it's not a learning process. We have too many squad players in the team, if playing them in their best position and organized we can be a comfortable mid table team. We are still after 34 games seeing the same mistakes because players aren't comfortable as a team in how they are being asked to play.
In our first 26 games we conceded 29 goals
With Fisher in goal we have conceded 20 in his 8 games. An average of 2 1/2 a game
His record being 1 0 3 1 4 0 1 5
It's a team game but does he install confidence? I've seen very little in His performances that says yes.
I can't see this squad clicking, we can do it in short periods but it's not the players natural game. Martin is already talking about next season, but I can't see us able to bring in enough players in the summer to make a noticeable difference.