South Korean plane crash.

[Pegojack]

Am I the only one wondering why there was a solid wall across the end of the runway?
Surely the airport should have been designed to have a long run off margin and collapsible wire fencing along the outer barrier?
Can anyone with a bit of expertise comment?

 

[JustJack]

From my brief reading the media are going with the angle of the the pilot having enough training but just losing his arse completely at the wrong moment. Plane landed without deployment of wheels?

 

[Cooperman]

The only thing that can be said right now with any degree of certainty is that the plane was not configured for landing when it hit the runway. Everything else is pretty much speculative and the facts will have to be established via a lengthy and complicated investigation. It might well turn out to be a mix of mechanical, situational and procedural error.

There is very tight regulatory control around airfield design and operations and having such a bank at the end of the runway is not uncommon, as is having open sea (Tokyo, San Francisco) or a fairly steep slope (Bristol).

 

[JustJack]

The only thing that can be said right now with any degree of certainty is that the plane was not configured for landing when it hit the runway. Everything else is pretty much speculative and the facts will have to be established via a lengthy and complicated investigation. It might well turn out to be a mix of mechanical, situational and procedural error.

There is very tight regulatory control around airfield design and operations and having such a bank at the end of the runway is not uncommon, as is having open sea (Tokyo, San Francisco) or a fairly steep slope (Bristol).

The airport has apparently been operating international flights for a couple of weeks

 

[Cooperman]

The airport has apparently been operating international flights for a couple of weeks

I don’t think that’s true; the airport is served by non-Korean airlines.

 

[JoshTheJack]

South Korea plane crash: Why was there a wall near the runway?

An air safety expert says lives could have been saved if the "obstruction" was not there.

www.bbc.co.uk

Christian Beckert, a Lufthansa pilot based in Munich, called the concrete structure "unusual", telling Reuters news agency: "Normally, on an airport with a runway at the end, you don't have a wall."
The concrete structure holds a navigation system that assists aircraft landings - known as a localiser - according to South Korea's Yonhap News Agency.
At 4m high, it is covered with dirt and was raised to keep the localiser level with the runway to ensure it functions properly, Yonhap reported.
South Korea's transport ministry has said that other airports in the country and some overseas have the equipment installed with concrete structures. However officials will examine whether it should have been made with lighter materials that would break more easily upon impact.

 

[LeonWasTheDogs]

South Korea plane crash: Why was there a wall near the runway?

An air safety expert says lives could have been saved if the "obstruction" was not there.

www.bbc.co.uk

Christian Beckert, a Lufthansa pilot based in Munich, called the concrete structure "unusual", telling Reuters news agency: "Normally, on an airport with a runway at the end, you don't have a wall."
The concrete structure holds a navigation system that assists aircraft landings - known as a localiser - according to South Korea's Yonhap News Agency.
At 4m high, it is covered with dirt and was raised to keep the localiser level with the runway to ensure it functions properly, Yonhap reported.
South Korea's transport ministry has said that other airports in the country and some overseas have the equipment installed with concrete structures. However officials will examine whether it should have been made with lighter materials that would break more easily upon impact.

He’s not the only one. They had a former BA pilot on Radio 5 Live earlier who also said it was unusual to have a man made construction like that at the end of the runway. He also reckoned the pilots employed the reverse thrusters (brakes for you and me) on the wrong engine at landing and the gear and flaps weren’t down but there’s no reason why they wouldn’t be after a bird strike.

Sounds either like a catastrophic systems failure or the pilots had a brain fart. I’m sure it’ll come out in the wash.

I’m not watching the video though - I’d never fly again if I did.