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[Pegojack]

Thank for your reply Jack. I personally would vote for reform at this moment time (might change in 4 years) as I agree with "alot" of what they say and am fed up of the other parties promising to do things and then not doing them. If reform get in and fail then I believe it would have been worth a try of something different.

How do you feel about the female Reform supporter who received a jail sentence for advocating burning down a hotel housing immigrant men, women and children, and who received an ovation when she appeared at the recent Reform conference?

 

[Pompeyjack]

How do you feel about the female Reform supporter who received a jail sentence for advocating burning down a hotel housing immigrant men, women and children, and who received an ovation when she appeared at the recent Reform conference?

I don't agree with anyone posting or saying anything promoting violence in any way, shape or form. Would she (or anyone else posting stuff online) say things like that in an open debate? Probably not. My point.

 

[Neath_Jack]

The reason I originally posted on here was give my view on people's use of language when they don't agree with someone else's views. I find being called a knuckle dragger a little offensive, but I'm old enough to understand your point. The youth of today (who are far more access to social media) on right/left might not be as understanding and then this is when things escalate.

Which is your right to be offended, nobody will take that away from you. I’m offended by Welsh people who are prepared to vote for an English nationalist party. See how it works?

And right wingers main schtick is freedom of speech, freedom of speech. Well if my freedom of speech offends them then quite frankly that’s tough tities, isn’t it.

 

[Neath_Jack]

4. Better option than the current imbeciles

So which of their policies, especially their Welsh ones do you like?

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

I don't agree with anyone posting or saying anything promoting violence in any way, shape or form. Would she (or anyone else posting stuff online) say things like that in an open debate? Probably not. My point.

What she would or wouldn't say in a theoretical open debate is irrelevant.

The fact is she called for immigrants to be burnt alive in a post that reached thousands of people, and rightly got jailed. Yet Nige and co rolled her out at conference as some sort of martyr.

You've just said you want to vote for that mind. That's what you'd be voting for.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

4. Better option than the current imbeciles

So option 3 then.

 

[Ringwood]

So option 3 then.

I don't vote for any of them

 

[Neath_Jack]

So which of their policies, especially their Welsh ones do you like?

Exactly.

 

[JackSomething]

Exactly.

Well, the one where he's going to re-open the blast furnaces at Port Talbot of course. Oh wait...

Reform's whole appeal is based on being a protest party, telling the voters that everything bad in their lives is the result of other people, immigrants, transgender people, woke policies, etc. It worked for Nigel with Brexit and it worked for Trump, so why wouldn't they try it again?

The most important aspect in a general election is to demonise the incumbent government of course. So the usual agents on social media push that narrative and the generally supine mainstream media does a terrible job of countering with actual facts. It's why so many people say 'this Labour government is somehow even worse than the last lot', yet when you ask for examples of what they've done that's worse than the clown show we had at times under Boris, Truss, et al, they have almost nothing concrete they can point to.