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Summer Transfer Window

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We've moved a lot of higher earners on, plus transfer fees aren't paid in one lump. Most will be spread over the duration of the contract to minimise the cost for PSR purposes. I believe it's called "The Chelsea Method".

No doubt they're expecting a significantly enhanced commercial income based on the Snoop/Modric stuff, and I wouldn't rule out another similar announcement or two over the coming season. Imagine getting a US sporting superstar name on board?

We're still going to need ongoing financial subsidy regardless of this though, hopefully with a chunk of that going towards reinstating Cat 1 Academy status.
Just a point that I’m sure I’ve made before.

It makes zero difference for PSR when you pay a transfer fee. All in one go, spread over 10 years, paid in food stamps, no difference.

When you buy a player, the transfer fee plus associated costs (agents etc) are capitalised (put on the balance sheet) and then amortised over the length of the contract (i.e. charged to the profit and loss account in equal instalments). 3 year contract - spread over 36 months, 4 year over 48 months etc etc. even if it’s all paid in cash day one same applies.

At any given time, what we have left on the balance sheet (the original capitalised costs less any amortisation to date) is called the player book value. Over the contract length the total cost will move from the balance sheet to the profit and loss account to leave nothing on the balance sheet at the end of the contract (as the player is no longer our asset). If a player signs an extension, the remaining value left on the balance sheet is then spread over the new contract remaining length.

We are not short of cash, we are short of allowed losses (£41.5m over three years is allowed on a rolling basis). So this season is year three (this one plus last two years), year two (last year, this year and next year), and year one (this year and the next two years) of calculations.

Losses are income less costs (if you have more income than costs it’s a profit but we don’t have that). Balance sheet and cash flow is ignored.

You take the loss and add back stuff that is excluded for PSR (academy, women’s team, community activities, spending on various types of infrastructure etc etc.)

You also add on that player transfer profits (what we sell them for less what their remaining book value is, again irrespective of what the payment plan is) and deduct player losses (selling a player for less than their value in the books).

So it’s a balance of increasing income (which we are trying to do through commercial activities as well as merchandise and match day), and reducing costs.

This summer we’ve lost a few high cost players (Allen, Naughton, Pederson, Darling etc) who were at the end of their contracts, so we have no loss on them, just a large reduction in monthly costs. We’ve also sold Grimes (the profit on that will be his sales price less what his remaining book value was - it will not mean we have a profit of £4m or whatever the fee was) which will have been taken in last year’s PSR calculation, but this year we don’t have his salary which was relatively high.

Also we’ve just extended the contracts of both Key and Tymon (as above, their remaining book value will now be spread over a longer period than previously which reduces our PSR losses).

Loans are either an income or a reduction in our costs, even if it’s a small amount it builds up, so the players we have on loan help us. Loans we take in, reverse applies.

When you also take costs savings into account (one of the reductions will be not paying Coleman and his mate btw) and all the above, I can see how we are managing within PSR.

By next year we will hope to have significant additional income which will put us into a different place.
 
If Piroe keeps playing like he did v Everton he might get bought for 30 or 40 and we get a nice 20% from sellon. Shame he was off when they got the penalty
I was at the Leeds V Everton game and thought Piroe had an excellant 1st half, but faded in the 2nd half when Everton were better (they were still poor mind).

However he will need to be at his very best at every opportunity because he will have very stiff competition from Nemcha and Calvert-Lewin.

I am hopeful he gets among the goals soon and has great season as I watch most Leeds games live with my daughter and love all the Swansea connections. Rodon was great on Monday, Dan James was OK and I hope he can have a good season as his attitude is just fantastic.
 
Thank you Lisa👍

I never quite understood PSR
You’re welcome.

I should have said in my post btw but I forgot to do so, that as player profits (selling price less book value left on the balance sheet) are included in the club’s profit and loss figures, and therefore in PSR, increasing profits on player trading is obviously a huge part of the calculations.

Hence why we are targeting young players with potential at relatively low fees, in the hope that at least one or two takes off and makes us a big profit on sale.
And developing academy players (who are often brought in as kids so at no cost other than any signing fee and agent fees when they get a contract, or alternatively brought from other academies at minimal cost) will yield huge PSR dividends as well.

If I was running the club, given all of the varying factors, I’d upgrade to Academy 1 status (cost of which is ignored for PSR) asap as it would mean we could poach kids from elsewhere for future gains. From the Cardiff Academy for example!! And there would be little any club without Academy 1 status could do to prevent it.
 
If I was running the club, given all of the varying factors, I’d upgrade to Academy 1 status (cost of which is ignored for PSR) asap as it would mean we could poach kids from elsewhere for future gains. From the Cardiff Academy for example!! And there would be little any club without Academy 1 status could do to prevent it.
I believe that they have already said that this is top of their priorities list

A better catchment area and better standard of development league makes a huge difference in getting promising players and making sure they are ready for Championship level

Since reducing the Academy from Cat 1 to Cat 2 during Martin's reign the number of players who have made a significant impact on the first team has dropped to zero.
 
I believe that they have already said that this is top of their priorities list

A better catchment area and better standard of development league makes a huge difference in getting promising players and making sure they are ready for Championship level

Since reducing the Academy from Cat 1 to Cat 2 during Martin's reign the number of players who have made a significant impact on the first team has dropped to zero.
Have they? Hadn’t seen that. That’s good news then. Perhaps they don’t need me…
 
I think it was in the latest Owner's communication article on the OS from memory
You're right.

All of the above is pretty common knowledge among most footy fans nowadays, it ain't rocket science.

And back on thread, our Summer Transfer Window is transformational. The icing on top will be seismic change, no doubt........
 
You're right.

All of the above is pretty common knowledge among most footy fans nowadays, it ain't rocket science.

And back on thread, our Summer Transfer Window is transformational. The icing on top will be seismic change, no doubt........
Is your LaJolla account banned now then or have you abandoned it given how ridiculed you were?
 
My money is on Cooper now leaving. Fulton will stay and have his send off by the club next season when his contact ends. If we get a another winger then Congrieve will go out on loan to league 1. If we do get 2 stikers,
1 loan and 1 permanent then VP might go. But same time wouldn't suprise me if he stays.
 
I was at the Leeds V Everton game and thought Piroe had an excellant 1st half, but faded in the 2nd half when Everton were better (they were still poor mind).

However he will need to be at his very best at every opportunity because he will have very stiff competition from Nemcha and Calvert-Lewin.

I am hopeful he gets among the goals soon and has great season as I watch most Leeds games live with my daughter and love all the Swansea connections. Rodon was great on Monday, Dan James was OK and I hope he can have a good season as his attitude is just fantastic.
Watched it streaming on Paramount+ over here. Every touch he had in the first half was sublime.

In real time hard to appreciate ie watching it live, but the commentators replayed some of his passes and moves during the first half in more close up.

Eye opener seeing those close up replays. Shame he was off before the penalty. I made a prediction in a forum that Dan would get a penalty conceded by Tarkowski and scored by Piroe. Didnt quite work out that way but close lol

Not sure but I dont think they were playing with a typical No 10 yesterday so there's room for him and another striker maybe. Gudmundsson was a revelation

Oops. Just realized this is the summer transfer thread
 

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