Swans v Cardiff

[TerryPHELAN]

The only bubble trip left in Britain now, after restrictions were lifted on Blackburn fans visiting Burnley today.

 

[JustJack]

I've said it before but I think it needs to be scrapped.

Cardiff fans in the stadium barely muttered under their breath during the game, maybe because their team was getting pounded yes, but you go back to that league cup game around 14 years ago, and the toxic air and nastiness was miles away from that.

Yes the first time the plod will have to collar a few people, but slowly the majority of morons will be weeded out.

Its embarassing that its not needed in games such as Celtic/Rangers, West Ham/Millwall, Birmingham/Villa, yet here we are.

 

[Darran]

I've said it before but I think it needs to be scrapped.

Cardiff fans in the stadium barely muttered under their breath during the game, maybe because their team was getting pounded yes, but you go back to that league cup game around 14 years ago, and the toxic air and nastiness was miles away from that.

Yes the first time the plod will have to collar a few people, but slowly the majority of morons will be weeded out.

Its embarassing that its not needed in games such as Celtic/Rangers, West Ham/Millwall, Birmingham/Villa, yet here we are.

It won’t be lifted anytime soon. Too many c*nts on both sides.

 

[JustJack]

It won’t be lifted anytime soon. Too many c*nts on both sides.

Right but until the fans actively mix and it becomes normal to be on the trains together etc, it will never die down to the level needed to get rid of the restrictions. The bubble does nothing to improve the situation.

Maybe we need a charity pre season game or something.?

 

[Darran]

Right but until the fans actively mix and it becomes normal to be on the trains together etc, it will never die down to the level needed to get rid of the restrictions. The bubble does nothing to improve the situation.

Maybe we need a charity pre season game or something.?

I think one of the differences is that most other opposing derby supporters walk around the same cities together,like Glasgow,London,Manchester etc wearing their teams shirts.
You rarely see people walking around Swansea wearing Cardiff City shirts and vice versa,in other places they already kind of mix outside of game time and I’m not sure the people in charge want to improve any situation now that they’ve go a relatively easy job.

 

[JustJack]

I think one of the differences is that most other opposing derby supporters walk around the same cities together,like Glasgow,London,Manchester etc wearing their teams shirts.
You rarely see people walking around Swansea wearing Cardiff City shirts and vice versa,in other places they already kind of mix outside of game time and I’m not sure the people in charge want to improve any situation now that they’ve go a relatively easy job.

I agree the Police are more than happy with the way it is, a nice overtime earner for waving some buses into the car park.

I'm not sure who the extra expense falls on mind, you'd think that would bother someone at either club.

 

[sainthelens]

Will never happen.
First time they try it, itll be a disaster waiting to happen.
Way too many youngsters from both sides who would relish a tear up...and no doubt be led by old school wannabes.
And when people get seriously hurt following it, not only would the bubble quickly return, but also the possibility of banning away fans.
Anyone thinking any different would happen is living in cloud cuckoo land.

 

[Lifelong]

Will never happen.
First time they try it, itll be a disaster waiting to happen.
Way too many youngsters from both sides who would relish a tear up...and no doubt be led by old school wannabes.
And when people get seriously hurt following it, not only would the bubble quickly return, but also the possibility of banning away fans.
Anyone thinking any different would happen is living in cloud cuckoo land.

Unfortunately I agree with this, it’s a bit sad really.

 

[JustJack]

Will never happen.
First time they try it, itll be a disaster waiting to happen.
Way too many youngsters from both sides who would relish a tear up...and no doubt be led by old school wannabes.
And when people get seriously hurt following it, not only would the bubble quickly return, but also the possibility of banning away fans.
Anyone thinking any different would happen is living in cloud cuckoo land.

So that's it? A done deal until the end of time?

The first time would be the worst, but the ones who cause trouble will just be collared and put away.

The second time there will be less of them inclined to act such a way and so on until it can become something that resembles the 21st century.

 

[sainthelens]

So that's it? A done deal until the end of time?

The first time would be the worst, but the ones who cause trouble will just be collared and put away.

The second time there will be less of them inclined to act such a way and so on until it can become something that resembles the 21st century.

Your missing the point buddy. When it kicks off the first time...the authorities will say thats it...no more. Either back to bubbles or no away fans.
Sad...yes.
Likely....very.

 

[Swanjaxs]

So that's it? A done deal until the end of time?

The first time would be the worst, but the ones who cause trouble will just be collared and put away.

The second time there will be less of them inclined to act such a way and so on until it can become something that resembles the 21st century.

Unfortunately I can't see the bubble being lifted anytime soon, as for the Old Firm, speaking as someone who has been to many, 99% of away fans still get bussed in, even for those living only a short distance from the "away ground", if you do walk, you keep your head down, absolutely no colours, you would be literally signing yourself into Glasgow Royal Infirmary if you did...

 

[Dewi1jack]

Will never happen.
First time they try it, itll be a disaster waiting to happen.
Way too many youngsters from both sides who would relish a tear up...and no doubt be led by old school wannabes.
And when people get seriously hurt following it, not only would the bubble quickly return, but also the possibility of banning away fans.
Anyone thinking any different would happen is living in cloud cuckoo land.

Sadly, you are right.
Although when the Brizzle games were no longer a bubble, the first couple of games there were small outbreaks of stupidity. Can't remember if we ever did Brizzle rovers as a non bubble, when we were down the bottom divisions.
I don't think the first non bubble us v the losers, sorry Cardiff, would be as low key. I certainly wouldn't consider taking the grandbabies to it
You know the tw@s from both sides would pick on families.
Would put a lot of families off ever going again I fear.

 

[MugfordsJack]

Only bringing this up to stop the boring, same old question happening again re the behaviour of rugby vs football fans…
This topic illustrates the stupidity/irony of the people arguing against the rugby internationals held in Cardiff. Circa 80000 supporters mixing, with alcohol = the odd ruck or assault/misdemeanour. Circa 30000 at the footy and you have to have a significant police presence to stop running riots in the streets. So, can we drop that particular subject for a while please?

 

[JustJack]

Only bringing this up to stop the boring, same old question happening again re the behaviour of rugby vs football fans…
This topic illustrates the stupidity/irony of the people arguing against the rugby internationals held in Cardiff. Circa 80000 supporters mixing, with alcohol = the odd ruck or assault/misdemeanour. Circa 30000 at the footy and you have to have a significant police presence to stop running riots in the streets. So, can we drop that particular subject for a while please?

Yeah 'the odd ruck'.

 

[JackSomething]

Only bringing this up to stop the boring, same old question happening again re the behaviour of rugby vs football fans…
This topic illustrates the stupidity/irony of the people arguing against the rugby internationals held in Cardiff. Circa 80000 supporters mixing, with alcohol = the odd ruck or assault/misdemeanour. Circa 30000 at the footy and you have to have a significant police presence to stop running riots in the streets. So, can we drop that particular subject for a while please?

Has there been 'the odd ruck or assault/misdemeanour' at Wales football matches recently then? Because Cardiff's stadium regularly has 30k+ fans there for the games and I haven't read anything about trouble.

If you're going to compare the sports, you need to go as like for like as possible. Comparing a Wales rugby international to a Swans v Cardiff football match would be silly.