"Unhelpful" - Andy Coleman speaks out on Luke Williams speculation as Swans show united front

[LaJollaJack]

Spot on.

By all means hammer him for being mediocre if you like.

But at least recognise his flavour of mediocrity is in a different postcode to Martin.

For once, you may well be right

Martin is so not the benchmark though, in so many ways, ffs.

 

[LeonWasTheDogs]

My view is if he was offered the job at West Brom he would have taken it.

Whether any of this interaction with WBA actually took place we will never know

My thoughts are WBA are looking to not pay compo for their new gaffer..

Of course he hasn’t been offered the WBA job. You’re right that we’ll never know if there was any contact, but there’s no way he was offered it or angling for it.

Ou fan base online seems to have gone fkn mental

 

[bytholwyn]

Decent post, fair play, mate But you're missing the point, right now.

Your stats and (most especially) your Eyeballs need to hone in on precisely how Williams has regressed us most recently. Can you not see how his penchant is to congest the middle, at all costs ? He flattered to deceive us with expansive wideplay from the outset. Even I was convinced he was the 'real deal'. Instead he's just another Martin type fraud. A fraud who was sacked for good reason last time he was here.

The QPR game was down to our players playing to the captain's instruction, not overly congesting the middle, giving him the space and vision to exploit, and not exposing our tucked-in FBs to the counter.

He clearly isn't the real deal and the calamitous regression in our play of late - is all to boost HIS possession stats is the salient thing right now. Nothing else matters.

As a club on the up, we deserve far far better.

I'm sorry but that's just incorrect. My gripe with Williams is that he doesn't play enough through the middle. No other team in the Championship plays more through the flanks than Swansea, and a lot of our progression into the opposition half is through long passes to the flanks from Vigouroux, Grimes and the CBs. Vigouroux has one of the best long ball accuracies in the league, but he still gifts possession to the opposition 57% of the time.

Against QPR and Luton we finally varied our approach, with progression through the thirds by short passing move, mixed in with longer passing. If that can be sustained going forwards then we will pose a threat to anyone in the league. The question is, was the performances in those two games down to tweaks made by Grimes and the players, or Williams' gameplan? I'm open minded on this, but the regression in the Portsmouth game isn't promising. I guess it's a case of watch this space.

For what it's worth I think Williams has the potential to be a good and exciting manager, but I think he struggles to see the wood from the trees. Building through the thirds by close quarter short passing triangles are our DNA, deviate too much from them and we're on dodgy ground.

 

[LaJollaJack]

I'm sorry but that's just incorrect. My gripe with Williams is that he doesn't play enough through the middle. No other team in the Championship plays more through the flanks than Swansea, and a lot of our progression into the opposition half is through long passes to the flanks from Vigouroux, Grimes and the CBs. Vigouroux has one of the best long ball accuracies in the league, but he still gifts possession to the opposition 57% of the time.

Against QPR and Luton we finally varied our approach, with progression through the thirds by short passing move, mixed in with longer passing. If that can be sustained going forwards then we will pose a threat to anyone in the league. The question is, was the performances in those two games down to tweaks made by Grimes and the players, or Williams' gameplan? I'm open minded on this, but the regression in the Portsmouth game isn't promising. I guess it's a case of watch this space.

For what it's worth I think Williams has the potential to be a good and exciting manager, but I think he struggles to see the wood from the trees. Building through the thirds by close quarter short passing triangles are our DNA, deviate too much from them and we're on dodgy ground.

With respect, I don't think it is incorrect - recalibrate your stats for his entire tenure here and notice how it skews badly most recently - the fat congested middle is his ticket out of here, at all costs. And he's playing it to his heart's content, without discourse nor meaningful challenge by the soft media and fans.

the QPR/Luton games - all down to being unshackled from Williams' self indulgent, nonsense ways.

fwiw - Williams lacks the heritage, pedigree, class, IQ, EQ and PR skills to have half a chance here.

This last fortnight proves it in spades.

 

[Ringwood]

Of course he hasn’t been offered the WBA job. You’re right that we’ll never know if there was any contact, but there’s no way he was offered it or angling for it.

Ou fan base online seems to have gone fkn mental

My point was...."if he was offered it "

 

[bytholwyn]

The last fortnight has produced the two best displays of his tenure and one of his worst. I'm not sure how you draw such definitive conclusions on that basis. As for this congested middle, please provide the evidence to back it up. Look at the heat maps for recent games on Sofascore.com and you will see that most of our players play mainly out wide. Cullen, against QPR had a heat map out wide left that was almost identical to Eom's. Bianchini and Grimes were the only players who had freedom to roam. Tymon and Key both inverted some of the time to provide a short passing option from the back 3.

With Franco back tomorrow hopefully we will see just how serious we are about committing to this new approach against decent opposition.