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Neath_Jack

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In Tory Britain, in 2022.

Just let this sink in for a minute.

The next 12/24 months are going to be absolutely horrific for people that are already teetering on the edge of survival.

Survival, in modern day UK.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/councils-plan-food-bank-style-warm-banks-help-residents-survive/
 
Neath_Jack said:
In Tory Britain, in 2022.

Just let this sink in for a minute.

The next 12/24 months are going to be absolutely horrific for people that are already teetering on the edge of survival.

Survival, in modern day UK.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/councils-plan-food-bank-style-warm-banks-help-residents-survive/

Absolutely disgraceful in this day and age. I can only assume that human evolution peaked some time ago and we weren't aware it had finished. Now we appear to be on the downward part of the evolutionary curve. As Einstein once said, "Every step appears as the unavoidable consequence of the preceding one. In the end, there beckons more and more clearly, general annihilation"
 
It is going to get very bad, very quickly. The predicted annual energy bill is now at £3850 and expected to remain high until mid 2024, if not for eternity.

It is utterly sickening. I don't see a way back now as everything is falling apart and there isn't any short term, or even medium term, fix. It would take the 12 years it's taken this bunch of twats to wreck everything. Riots and widespread strikes are on the way, and then we will see the true colours of authoritarianism from these tinpot fascists.
 
monmouth said:
It is going to get very bad, very quickly. The predicted annual energy bill is now at £3850 and expected to remain high until mid 2024, if not for eternity.

It is utterly sickening. I don't see a way back now as everything is falling apart and there isn't any short term, or even medium term, fix. It would take the 12 years it's taken this bunch of twats to wreck everything. Riots and widespread strikes are on the way, and then we will see the true colours of authoritarianism from these tinpot fascists.

Surely something can be done about the obscene profits the energy companies are making, whilst more and more of the population slide into actual poverty? Couldn’t the government put a stop to this overnight if they wanted too? Genuine question.
 
Neath_Jack said:
monmouth said:
It is going to get very bad, very quickly. The predicted annual energy bill is now at £3850 and expected to remain high until mid 2024, if not for eternity.

It is utterly sickening. I don't see a way back now as everything is falling apart and there isn't any short term, or even medium term, fix. It would take the 12 years it's taken this bunch of twats to wreck everything. Riots and widespread strikes are on the way, and then we will see the true colours of authoritarianism from these tinpot fascists.

Surely something can be done about the obscene profits the energy companies are making, whilst more and more of the population slide into actual poverty? Couldn’t the government put a stop to this overnight if they wanted too? Genuine question.

Haven't you heard these companies need to make these massive profits for reinvestment. Surely you've seen all the improvements.
Poor people are just collateral damage.
So humane these government types wouldn't yo agree?
 
Neath_Jack said:
In Tory Britain, in 2022.

Just let this sink in for a minute.

The next 12/24 months are going to be absolutely horrific for people that are already teetering on the edge of survival.

Survival, in modern day UK.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/councils-plan-food-bank-style-warm-banks-help-residents-survive/

But he tried his best and got all the big calls right...
 
Neath_Jack said:
In Tory Britain, in 2022.

Just let this sink in for a minute.

The next 12/24 months are going to be absolutely horrific for people that are already teetering on the edge of survival.

Survival, in modern day UK.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/councils-plan-food-bank-style-warm-banks-help-residents-survive/

I had to put my spec's on to re-read the thread title, I thought.................. :lol:
 
Neath_Jack said:
monmouth said:
It is going to get very bad, very quickly. The predicted annual energy bill is now at £3850 and expected to remain high until mid 2024, if not for eternity.

It is utterly sickening. I don't see a way back now as everything is falling apart and there isn't any short term, or even medium term, fix. It would take the 12 years it's taken this bunch of twats to wreck everything. Riots and widespread strikes are on the way, and then we will see the true colours of authoritarianism from these tinpot fascists.

Surely something can be done about the obscene profits the energy companies are making, whilst more and more of the population slide into actual poverty? Couldn’t the government put a stop to this overnight if they wanted too? Genuine question.

My view is:

The tax burden could certainly be made fairer and more progressive, and companies could be targeted with a windfall tax properly for sure, but high energy and fuel costs feed into absolutely everything. I was also thinking of the 165,000 (?) vacancies in the NHS, services grinding to a halt, the destruction of businesses and the lack of staff to do anything thanks to this ridiculous Brexit self inflicted wound. All the short term actions are a sticking plaster over a ruptured spleen, but they still should be taken. This Government will do nothing but make it all worse and Starmer is much too scaredy cat to paint and drive the bold rethink required. As I said before though, he's the only hope we've got. Another 7 years of incompetent and malignant UK self harm for the top 1%s personal gain and there's no coming back.

So to answer the specific, yes, they could do something on that specific issue of energy companies, I would suggest 100% of excess profits, but it is ideologically abhorrent to them, so they won't. They will pretend to, by saying they will do something and then do nothing. Plus they will argue it would stop those companies 'investing' - presumably in Board bonuses and Shareholder dividends. Even if they did tax properly it wouldn't get anywhere near the people or services that need it. That's the way things roll in Government at kleast since 2016 - Promise, dissemble, do nothing except damage, give taxpayers money to themselves and their mates.

IMO regarding the 3-5 year outlook, it's bad, really bad. Couple that with a prolonged dose of global stagflation and I'm not entirely sure what anyone can do, but the current lot don't even have the desire, attitude or competence to try. The only ideas they have are driving division and making populist promises they have no intention of carrying through, except a tax cut that will, as always, benefit the rich more and fuel inflation further - people in poverty don't pay tax - while centralising more and more power that makes them unaccountable for their actions.

I tend to be pessimistic - you may have noticed 🤣 - I see it as my birthright, so I'd welcome an alternative argument from those that understnd things better than I do.
 
monmouth said:
Neath_Jack said:
Surely something can be done about the obscene profits the energy companies are making, whilst more and more of the population slide into actual poverty? Couldn’t the government put a stop to this overnight if they wanted too? Genuine question.

My view is:

The tax burden could certainly be made fairer and more progressive, and companies could be targeted with a windfall tax properly for sure, but high energy and fuel costs feed into absolutely everything. I was also thinking of the 165,000 (?) vacancies in the NHS, services grinding to a halt, the destruction of businesses and the lack of staff to do anything thanks to this ridiculous Brexit self inflicted wound. All the short term actions are a sticking plaster over a ruptured spleen, but they still should be taken. This Government will do nothing but make it all worse and Starmer is much too scaredy cat to paint and drive the bold rethink required. As I said before though, he's the only hope we've got. Another 7 years of incompetent and malignant UK self harm for the top 1%s personal gain and there's no coming back.

So to answer the specific, yes, they could do something on that specific issue of energy companies, I would suggest 100% of excess profits, but it is ideologically abhorrent to them, so they won't. They will pretend to, by saying they will do something and then do nothing. Plus they will argue it would stop those companies 'investing' - presumably in Board bonuses and Shareholder dividends. Even if they did tax properly it wouldn't get anywhere near the people or services that need it. That's the way things roll in Government at kleast since 2016 - Promise, dissemble, do nothing except damage, give taxpayers money to themselves and their mates.

IMO regarding the 3-5 year outlook, it's bad, really bad. Couple that with a prolonged dose of global stagflation and I'm not entirely sure what anyone can do, but the current lot don't even have the desire, attitude or competence to try. The only ideas they have are driving division and making populist promises they have no intention of carrying through, except a tax cut that will, as always, benefit the rich more and fuel inflation further - people in poverty don't pay tax - while centralising more and more power that makes them unaccountable for their actions.

I tend to be pessimistic - you may have noticed 🤣 - I see it as my birthright, so I'd welcome an alternative argument from those that understnd things better than I do.

You're spot on. The next general election is the most important for a generation
 
A lot of people will suffer and some will die this winter because they’ll have to choose between food and warmth. They’re unlikely to be reported as such but it will happen. 21st century Britain.
 
exiledclaseboy said:
A lot of people will suffer and some will die this winter because they’ll have to choose between food and warmth. They’re unlikely to be reported as such but it will happen. 21st century Britain.

But they tried their hardest and got all the big calls right. What a time to be alive, Clasey
 
It's remarkable how quickly the situation has changed. A big risk across Europe of people facing the worst this winter. Let's hope for a mild winter.
 

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