What do we look for in an assistant manager?

[Risc]

Looks like assistant manager will be Matthew Gardiner who was at Kidderminster with Eustace, was also poached by QPR.

Very good with young players apparently.

 

[JackSomething]

Respect? He fecking walked out on us(With one season left on his contract) because he couldn't get a job elsewhere and we weren't prepared to throw money we don't have about.It's a two way street,I think he'll regret walking,away all of football will see through what he's done.

If someone wants you to do a job but won't give you the tools to do that job why would you stay? If you know things are going downhill would you stay?

If you knew your employer was making cuts and you could be out of a job in the next few months would you hang around? No you wouldn't

You're falling into the common trap there of comparing jobs in football to 'real world jobs'. If you think about it for a minute, you'll realise that jobs in football (and other professional sports) are vastly different to other jobs in many ways.

 

[SwansFan1912]

If someone wants you to do a job but won't give you the tools to do that job why would you stay? If you know things are going downhill would you stay?

If you knew your employer was making cuts and you could be out of a job in the next few months would you hang around? No you wouldn't

Thing is his performance decides wether he'd get sacked or not,Not the finances.He had two season of parachute payments and he knew before he came in we're a selling club(who isn't outside the top 6-8 in the Prem).
He didn't stay on beacuse he didn't get us promoted quite petty don't you think.Plenty of our managers pre Prem had far less backing than he's had.We rolled over in a play off final then he complains about not being backed,Were backing him to the best our finances can afford if it's not enough for him good riddance.

Have Swansea fans got Stockholm Syndrome or something? We've gone from holding our owners to account and giving them what we think, with their siphoning of funds to just rolling over and not really caring when all the warning signs are there.

People saying that the club backed the manager, give over. Absolute joke

If we had finished 10th last season with the style of play we fantasise then the fans would be seething and demanding to know whats going on, calling for Winter and the owners heads. DC United are splashing cash on a brand new training ground and massive sponsorship deals. Meanwhile not only are we not bying players to even come close to a play off challenge , but we are defunding the academy which is the only reason we have made any money or got players over the last few years. This time last year the academy was about to effectively close and we were selling the training ground facility back to the uni.

Wait until December and see just how perilous the situation is. Given how little support the club gave when we were in the automatic promotion spots, imagine how little support the club are going to give the manager when we aren't pushing for promotion.

 

[SwansFan1912]

If someone wants you to do a job but won't give you the tools to do that job why would you stay? If you know things are going downhill would you stay?

If you knew your employer was making cuts and you could be out of a job in the next few months would you hang around? No you wouldn't

You're falling into the common trap there of comparing jobs in football to 'real world jobs'. If you think about it for a minute, you'll realise that jobs in football (and other professional sports) are vastly different to other jobs in many ways.

Yes ... they're far more volatile and don't have any security what so ever. Your in the public eye and your reputation is everything. Especially as a young manager new to the game. Why should he potentially screw up his career for a club whos fans have shown him nothing but hostility despite success and overachieving on both occasions. Delusional

 

[JackSomething]

You're falling into the common trap there of comparing jobs in football to 'real world jobs'. If you think about it for a minute, you'll realise that jobs in football (and other professional sports) are vastly different to other jobs in many ways.

Yes ... they're far more volatile and don't have any security what so ever. Your in the public eye and your reputation is everything. Especially as a young manager new to the game. Why should he potentially screw up his career for a club whos fans have shown him nothing but hostility despite success and overachieving on both occasions. Delusional

Chill out mun. Not sure why you feel the need to defend a mediocre manager with maximum intensity, but it feels like you're going to give yourself a coronary at this rate.

The only reason Cooper would have been out of a job before his contract expired is if the team were having a terrible season and he needed to be sacked for performance reasons. The employer 'making cuts' (whatever that means in this context, I think you just mean not spending enough money on transfers) is not going to mean he gets sacked for financial reasons. A football club tends to need a manager and they'd have to pay out his contract anyway.

 

[LeonWasTheDog's]

Tight buns and good teeth. Anything else is a bonus.



Fk knows - someone who can work well with the gaffer and do what’s needed. That could be the technical side, could be motivational, could be discipline, could be any number of things. Impossible to call really; all depends on what the gaffer wants him (or her hopefully one day) to do and how the skills and characters in the whole coaching/medical teams all play off each other.

Don’t rule out the value of having a ‘Mr Swansea’ who’s experienced our best in the modern era and worked under Martinez, Rogers, etc. Having Curtis never did us any harm.

 

[LeonWasTheDog's]

Looks like assistant manager will be Matthew Gardiner who was at Kidderminster with Eustace, was also poached by QPR.

Very good with young players apparently.

Makes sense. He’ll need to be good with the ones coming through the U23s, as we don’t seem too fussed on making many new signings.

 

[JoshTheJack]

Thing is his performance decides wether he'd get sacked or not,Not the finances.He had two season of parachute payments and he knew before he came in we're a selling club(who isn't outside the top 6-8 in the Prem).
He didn't stay on beacuse he didn't get us promoted quite petty don't you think.Plenty of our managers pre Prem had far less backing than he's had.We rolled over in a play off final then he complains about not being backed,Were backing him to the best our finances can afford if it's not enough for him good riddance.

Have Swansea fans got Stockholm Syndrome or something? We've gone from holding our owners to account and giving them what we think, with their siphoning of funds to just rolling over and not really caring when all the warning signs are there.

People saying that the club backed the manager, give over. Absolute joke

If we had finished 10th last season with the style of play we fantasise then the fans would be seething and demanding to know whats going on, calling for Winter and the owners heads. DC United are splashing cash on a brand new training ground and massive sponsorship deals. Meanwhile not only are we not bying players to even come close to a play off challenge , but we are defunding the academy which is the only reason we have made any money or got players over the last few years. This time last year the academy was about to effectively close and we were selling the training ground facility back to the uni.

Wait until December and see just how perilous the situation is. Given how little support the club gave when we were in the automatic promotion spots, imagine how little support the club are going to give the manager when we aren't pushing for promotion.

I'd rather have a debt free club than give some uninspiring identikit manager a sum of money we don't have when there's no guarantee it will be a success,I'm glad the Americans are running it the way they are.
I'm unhappy about their general lack of interest in us ,But were not locally owned anymore,Aslong as there are football clubs there will be people who try make money off them,My crumb of comfort is that thier plan backfired and they're unlikely to get their investment back.
They're being responsible and it benefits all of us in the long run.We kept a player who was probably earning more than the next two players combined to give us a chance.I don't like the Americans never have but they have always spent whats available.

 

[Risc]

Looks like assistant manager will be Matthew Gardiner who was at Kidderminster with Eustace, was also poached by QPR.

Very good with young players apparently.

Makes sense. He’ll need to be good with the ones coming through the U23s, as we don’t seem too fussed on making many new signings.

Well it did make sense, until an hour or so ago :lol:

 

[SwansFan1912]

Have Swansea fans got Stockholm Syndrome or something? We've gone from holding our owners to account and giving them what we think, with their siphoning of funds to just rolling over and not really caring when all the warning signs are there.

People saying that the club backed the manager, give over. Absolute joke

If we had finished 10th last season with the style of play we fantasise then the fans would be seething and demanding to know whats going on, calling for Winter and the owners heads. DC United are splashing cash on a brand new training ground and massive sponsorship deals. Meanwhile not only are we not bying players to even come close to a play off challenge , but we are defunding the academy which is the only reason we have made any money or got players over the last few years. This time last year the academy was about to effectively close and we were selling the training ground facility back to the uni.

Wait until December and see just how perilous the situation is. Given how little support the club gave when we were in the automatic promotion spots, imagine how little support the club are going to give the manager when we aren't pushing for promotion.

I'd rather have a debt free club than give some uninspiring identikit manager a sum of money we don't have when there's no guarantee it will be a success,I'm glad the Americans are running it the way they are.
I'm unhappy about their general lack of interest in us ,But were not locally owned anymore,Aslong as there are football clubs there will be people who try make money off them,My crumb of comfort is that thier plan backfired and they're unlikely to get their investment back.
They're being responsible and it benefits all of us in the long run.We kept a player who was probably earning more than the next two players combined to give us a chance.I don't like the Americans never have but they have always spent whats available.

There's responsible and there's siphoning money out of the club to try and make up on their losses