Why do the fans accept this mediocrity?

[Roger]

Another bore draw. More points dropped at ‘fortress’ Liberty aka the Swansea.com stadium aka the Library these days.

Was down there today and it’s so quiet. This isn’t our fault but the football is so timid and boring the fans don’t get going at all.

What I want to know is:- where is the money? We should have bags of Premier League cash? Bournemouth and the like all have good squads, why do we have average players on the books?

Why aren’t the fans making more noise about the owners? Everyone just drinks their Nescafé and accepts this shower of shit.

 

[Swanjaxs]

Calm down dear.

 

[Cooperman]

What's wrong with the owners? Take your time with this one.

 

[JackSomething]

Another bore draw. More points dropped at ‘fortress’ Liberty aka the Swansea.com stadium aka the Library these days.

Was down there today and it’s so quiet. This isn’t our fault but the football is so timid and boring the fans don’t get going at all.

What I want to know is:- where is the money? We should have bags of Premier League cash? Bournemouth and the like all have good squads, why do we have average players on the books?

Why aren’t the fans making more noise about the owners? Everyone just drinks their Nescafé and accepts this shower of s**t.

Alternatively, 8 games unbeaten, comfortably our best run of the season.

1st half was boring no doubt, but if anyone down there found the second half boring and timid then they're following the wrong sport.

The money was spent on our astronomical wage bill following relegation, for which you can primarily thank Huw. Bournemouth are bankrolled by a billionaire and are trying to buy their way back to the PL, which we were never going to do.

The owners have sanctioned spending good amounts of money every season. If it wasn't for them spending money signing Piroe, Obafemi, Paterson and Ntcham (amongst others), we wouldn't have the combined 46 goals those players have scored this season.

 

[sainthelens]

As I get bit older, I'm mellowing slightly, but Roger you dont have talk some shyte.

 

[Magic_Michu]

If you think that 2nd half was boring you need your head checked.

 

[NeathJack]

Don't feed the troll.

 

[cmajack]

As I get bit older, I'm mellowing slightly, but Roger you dont have talk some shyte.

In fairness although the original poster has got carried away a bit he does have some valid points. He is right about the Liberty being very quiet a lot of the time and that is due to the incessant aimless passing between defenders and midfield with nothing happening in front of goal to get the crowd excited e.g the 1st half today. His other point about the owners is a bit different, while I'm quite happy that they are hopefully not stacking up millions and millions of pounds of debt , i do really think we should have made a better effort at trying to get back at the 1st attempt after relegation. We had a striker that scored over 20 goals , Dan James as well and never even made the play offs, and it is frustrating when you see the likes of Norwich, Burnley , West Brom and Burnley over the last decade going straight back up at a canter.

 

[Dr. Winston]

i do really think we should have made a better effort at trying to get back at the 1st attempt after relegation.

Problem is that the likes of Norwich, WBA, Fulham etc are established "yo-yo" clubs. They go up, they don't go nuts and overspend, they get relegated, and have enough financial stability to use parachute payments to fund another promotion campaign. Rinse and repeat.

We couldn't do that. We spent enough money in our last two years in the Prem to put the future of the club at significant long term risk. We had no choice other than to cut costs back as much as we could, as the risks of failing to bounce straight back into the Prem outweighed the benefits of doing so.

 

[Uxy]

i do really think we should have made a better effort at trying to get back at the 1st attempt after relegation.

Problem is that the likes of Norwich, WBA, Fulham etc are established "yo-yo" clubs. They go up, they don't go nuts and overspend, they get relegated, and have enough financial stability to use parachute payments to fund another promotion campaign. Rinse and repeat.

We couldn't do that. We spent enough money in our last two years in the Prem to put the future of the club at significant long term risk. We had no choice other than to cut costs back as much as we could, as the risks of failing to bounce straight back into the Prem outweighed the benefits of doing so.

The Huw Jenkins championship manager years caused so much long term damage. Ruined so much good that had gone before it.

 

[Dr. Winston]

The Huw Jenkins championship manager years caused so much long term damage. Ruined so much good that had gone before it.

We forgot what had worked. Worse, we actively rejected it.

 

[NeathJack]

The Huw Jenkins championship manager years caused so much long term damage. Ruined so much good that had gone before it.

We forgot what had worked. Worse, we actively rejected it.

It pretty much coincided with him playing with other peoples money, after he'd cashed out his own. Reckless and worry free.

 

[Uxy]

We forgot what had worked. Worse, we actively rejected it.

It pretty much coincided with him playing with other peoples money, after he'd cashed out his own. Reckless and worry free.

Indeed, but for me the rot set in around 2014 with the Monk experiment and the chance in approach to a free transfer / high wage / low resale model. Cash flow was tight from that moment, and was something we used to warn about monthly in pretty much every set of Trust minutes.

It got worse when the personal consequences lessoned, although worth remembering that Jenkins only cashed out 6% of his holding (although his high wage was dependent on staying in the PL).

The Yanks were the big issue for me though. They enabled all this and it only got worse after the Bradley folly. Shambles across the board.

 

[Cooperman]

It pretty much coincided with him playing with other peoples money, after he'd cashed out his own. Reckless and worry free.

Indeed, but for me the rot set in around 2014 with the Monk experiment and the chance in approach to a free transfer / high wage / low resale model. Cash flow was tight from that moment, and was something we used to warn about monthly in pretty much every set of Trust minutes.

It got worse when the personal consequences lessoned, although worth remembering that Jenkins only cashed out 6% of his holding (although his high wage was dependent on staying in the PL).

The Yanks were the big issue for me though. They enabled all this and it only got worse after the Bradley folly. Shambles across the board.

I’ll go even more time specific and say that the turning point was the signing of Bafe Gomis. It was at this point that any wage structure was blown clean apart.