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NS&I Premium Bonds

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Anyone on here got any? there's probably better saving options out there, but these do seem like a decent option,?
 
There is no guaranteed return as they are not a savings account, and anything you gain is through luck. There are most definitely better savings options out there.
 
My wife and I have these - tend to win prizes that return about 4% a year tax free. Not great, but avoids taxation, and always a chance at bigger prizes. Definitely worth buying in a big block as seems to increase chances of winning.
 
There is no guaranteed return as they are not a savings account, and anything you gain is through luck. There are most definitely better savings options out there.
Money is safe there though and you can leave money there long term, ISA's mature after 12 months and you got to try and put them elsewhere to keep earning off the total, without the thieving taxman grabbing it for Governments to waste.
 
Id forgot about Premium Bonds :) Funnily enough, I just looked at their website, I have just run through the list of high value winners for November, 283 pages, and it seems the vast majority, have got the max amount of bonds 50k. There are not many winners, who don't hold 50k of bonds.
 
Money is safe there though and you can leave money there long term, ISA's mature after 12 months and you got to try and put them elsewhere to keep earning off the total, without the thieving taxman grabbing it for Governments to waste.
There are two, three, four, five year ISA’s as well.
 
My wife and I have these - tend to win prizes that return about 4% a year tax free. Not great, but avoids taxation, and always a chance at bigger prizes. Definitely worth buying in a big block as seems to increase chances of winning.
Same. Probably averaged around 4% over the last 5 or 6 years.
 
Remember up to 1000 (BR) or 500 (HR) interest is tax free, so depending on your capital it might be better to go for non-isa if you can get better rates returning up to that limit.

As said, premium bonds don’t give a definite return, but if you have a spare 50k…you might win something bigger. The odds aren’t good though, and the total pot return is about 3.5% at the moment I think, but for everyone that gets more than that, there’s someone else that gets less. For the guys that average 4%, you’ve been very lucky. The fewer bonds below the 50k max you have, the less likely you are to win. As rates go down the average pot value is reduced too. A few years ago it was 1%. Alway under base rate whereas cash ISAs tend (I think) to track around base rate?

If I knew I didn’t need the money, wanted no risk, and the income was taxable, I’d go for fixed rate isa, especially now, as rates are probably going to fall soon, and Reeves is still making noises about cutting to 10k, but I’m no financial adviser. Obviously as we discussed to death on another thread, if you want to take some risk, there’s a whole world out of potentially better returns out there.
 
Remember up to 1000 (BR) or 500 (HR) interest is tax free, so depending on your capital it might be better to go for non-isa if you can get better rates returning up to that limit.

As said, premium bonds don’t give a definite return, but if you have a spare 50k…you might win something bigger. The odds aren’t good though, and the total pot return is about 3.5% at the moment I think, but for everyone that gets more than that, there’s someone else that gets less. For the guys that average 4%, you’ve been very lucky. The fewer bonds below the 50k max you have, the less likely you are to win. As rates go down the average pot value is reduced too. A few years ago it was 1%. Alway under base rate whereas cash ISAs tend (I think) to track around base rate?

If I knew I didn’t need the money, wanted no risk, and the income was taxable, I’d go for fixed rate isa, especially now, as rates are probably going to fall soon, and Reeves is still making noises about cutting to 10k, but I’m no financial adviser. Obviously as we discussed to death on another thread, if you want to take some risk, there’s a whole world out of potentially better returns out there.
All the words I had in my head but didn’t have the time to type.
 
Do you know anything about investment bonds Coops?
An alternative form of investment to a stocks and shares ISA. In simple terms you provide a cash lump sum to a provider, who then invests that across a range of fund options. Like a S&S ISA, a return is not guaranteed, but unlike a S&S ISA you might have a tax liability. I think there is an option to withdraw a small tax free sum from an investment bond on annual basis. Also unlike a S&S ISA, there will be a tie in period, with penalties for early closure. Not paid them that much attention to be honest.
 
Yonks ago - maybe 2005 - I stopped throwing money in Camelot's direction and started buying Premium Bonds. I had some early small wins, decided this was my meal ticket, so began chucking bigger and bigger wedges into Premium Bonds, ireinvesting any winnings.

I'm now at the maximum allowance. I keep a record of my winnings (biggest has been £5150 in October 2022) but returns are normally a few hundred off what an ISA would give me per annum.

But this scratches my gambling itch. So I'm happy enough with the return.
 
I have used a stocks and shares ISA for quite a few years for investment rather than saving for a rainy day accounts and had very good returns, obviously goes up and down but generally over the long term it has out performed any other account i have ever held.

Although now at mid 60s i am trying to spend money rather than save at my time of life. My IFA said once you are aged 60-80 you need to stop saving and start spending any large lump sums you have. You obviously need a pot for emergencies but generally you need less to live on as you get older and can spend more on the good things for yourself.

Tried Premium bonds but didn’t have a great return, the only benefit i suppose is that if you have maxed out all other tax free products and you will get hit with any return on your tax threshold then its better than nothing.
 
My IFA said once you are aged 60-80 you need to stop saving and start spending any large lump sums you have. You obviously need a pot for emergencies but generally you need less to live on as you get older and can spend more on the good things for yourself.

I fully accept any IFA would know more than I would, but I find this to be bonkers advice unless you are talking about having a huge amount of money.

I am saving now to be able to retire as early as possible and live a good life while also providing for my child. I've seen family members have to go into care and the costs burning through their (pretty extensive) savings in frighteningly quick time. The idea of spending any large lump sums I have once I'm past 60 and potentially leaving nothing for my child when I pass is not something I can get on board with, at least not without more understanding of why an IFA would recommend that.
 
House is in a trust with the family, i have helped my children in Uni, Marraiges, house purchases, maintenance and cars. Therefore having worked hard all my life and built up a decent pension pot with no bills i intend to enjoy my retirement doing as much as i can. The house will be left to the children but i intend to spend every other bit of money i have.

My parents were ordinary working class people who worked all their lives then had about 7 years enjoying retirement before ill health caused them to be more or less stuck at home being nursed. It annoyed me that they had a decent amount of money that they had squirrelled away but didn’t get to enjoy it.

Having had a health scare recently I don’t intend to do the same, i want to enjoy my retirement as in my younger years I didn’t have a gap year or anything like that i just worked hard. I retired at 62 and i hope i will have at least 10 years of travelling and enjoying myself.
 

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