The ❌Kim Hellberg❌ Non-Managerial Thread

[Swans Jack]

What happens if Hellberg does a u turn and decides to come to us? You'll have to change the thread heading for the 4th time

 

[jackharris]

The thing with Hellberg is if he hits the ground running at Boro some Prem team will come in and do a Wolves and if he’s shit then he’s shit. Anybody that doesn’t want to be associated with the Swans can take a long run off a short pier as my hero growing up would say the one and only Paul Hogan.

 

[WentToSchoolWith]

Only names that interest me currently are Tomasson and Still. No idea if we're interested in either, but Tomasson did a great job at Blackburn, and I refuse to write Still off because he failed at the shambles of Southampton.

 

[SwanseaBoy123]

Right let’s explain things, we’ve had one failed experiment the club are not going to go down that route again, every appointment is a risk but clever people try to minimise that risk, fingers burned and all that.

Sheehan wasn't supposed to be an experiment. He was the safe pair of hands in their eyes.

Helberg was the experiment and so is this Matos.

 

[DJack]

Safer would be minute by minute

Harsh







...but fair.

 

[SwanseaBoy123]

Well Monk turned out to be crap.

Toshack and Martinez was a long time ago now. Also, we weren't in the second tier at that point either.

Genuine question, how many totally inexperienced managers have come into the Championship and been a success?

To play devils advocate here alot of managers have done very well with no managerial "experience" Pep, Arteta, McKenna, Carrick, Rosenoir, Chris Davies just to name a few off the top of my head. Ofcourse there's loads which have gone the other way.

You don't have to be a number one to be "experienced" in management. Sometimes being in the right environment and learning from a variety of managers as a number 2 over a decent amount of time is very good experience in itself.

Carrick and McKenna benefited especially from that at Man Utd.

 

[cmajack]

Agree.

Just trying to look at it from his pov - they're a bigger club than us, by all accounts they're willing to give him a bigger salary, plus from that part of the UK it's a lot less faff for him to hop on a plane home if he needs to.

Not to mention we messed him about earlier in the year, having interviewed him.

Can't really blame him, as a package it's got a lot more going for it. We have to be realistic about that.

Let's be honest , to get to this country, and this particular part of Wales is an absolute nightmare and a disgrace. The Welsh government has made a complete balls up of Cardiff Airport that doesn't inspire anyone to come here for a job. Add in the fact that large parts of the M4 from Newport on is restricted to 50mph and you have to ask, is there any incentive for any stranger to come here ,instead of going somewhere else with better connections to other parts of the world.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

Let's be honest , to get to this country, and this particular part of Wales is an absolute nightmare and a disgrace. The Welsh government has made a complete balls up of Cardiff Airport that doesn't inspire anyone to come here for a job. Add in the fact that large parts of the M4 from Newport on is restricted to 50mph and you have to ask, is there any incentive for any stranger to come here ,instead of going somewhere else with better connections to other parts of the world.

Fair play. Pinning the failure to get Hellberg on the Welsh government is next level. Kudos.

 

[Ronald Parp]

To play devils advocate here alot of managers have done very well with no managerial "experience" Pep, Arteta, McKenna, Carrick, Rosenoir, Chris Davies just to name a few off the top of my head. Ofcourse there's loads which have gone the other way.

You don't have to be a number one to be "experienced" in management. Sometimes being in the right environment and learning from a variety of managers as a number 2 over a decent amount of time is very good experience in itself.

Carrick and McKenna benefited especially from that at Man Utd.

If managing Barcelona and Bayern before Man City and being one of the most decorated managers in the history of the universe is having ‘no managerial experience’ that’s a pretty high bar you’ve set for us there.

 

[Ronald Parp]

Fair play. Pinning the failure to get Hellberg on the Welsh government is next level. Kudos.

I laughed. True though, he probably took one look at the traffic jam at Brynglas Tunnel and though fuck this, I’m off to Boro.

 

[Dillwyn the Dog]

I laughed. True though, he probably took one look at the traffic jam at Brynglas Tunnel and though fuck this, I’m off to Boro.

It’s definitely torturous. And the trains aren’t much better - no traffic jams but stopping everywhere takes ages from Parkway to Swansea. The weather was terrible on Saturday so every train from London was around 50 minutes late. Hellberg must have thought “this is shit. And infrequent buffet service. I’m going to Boro, it’s closer to Sweden anyway”.

 

[ARQS]

Fair play. Pinning the failure to get Hellberg on the Welsh government is next level. Kudos.

Someone yesterday said that the move made sense as "Middlesbrough is closer to Sweden".

 

[BendJack]

Let's be honest , to get to this country, and this particular part of Wales is an absolute nightmare and a disgrace. The Welsh government has made a complete balls up of Cardiff Airport that doesn't inspire anyone to come here for a job. Add in the fact that large parts of the M4 from Newport on is restricted to 50mph and you have to ask, is there any incentive for any stranger to come here ,instead of going somewhere else with better connections to other parts of the world.

That's exactly what Michael Laudrup said: "The place is lovely but that 50mph speed trap area between Swansea and Port Talbot is a bloody nightmare!".

 

[swannage]

To play devils advocate here alot of managers have done very well with no managerial "experience" Pep, Arteta, McKenna, Carrick, Rosenoir, Chris Davies just to name a few off the top of my head. Ofcourse there's loads which have gone the other way.

You don't have to be a number one to be "experienced" in management. Sometimes being in the right environment and learning from a variety of managers as a number 2 over a decent amount of time is very good experience in itself.

Carrick and McKenna benefited especially from that at Man Utd.

I think he's only had 6 months as a number 2

 

[3swan]

Someone yesterday said that the move made sense as "Middlesbrough is closer to Sweden".

It was just part of a post

I read it as easier to get to than from Swansea.
Plenty of flights from Newcastle to Sweden.