Andy Burnham

[Cooperman]

If the local elections and Wales/Jocko are a bloodbath, and it's almost certain, then I think a challenge is inevitable. I reckon it'll be Streeting though...maybe Raynor as an outside bet or some non-entity like Phillipson.

You know it’s bad when Wes Streeting is the next cab on the rank.

 

[Smurph]

Looks like he's put his name forward

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I like Andy Burnham but Labour need to calm down, remember the next election is three and a half years away and spare us the continuing leadership psychodrama of the Tory years.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

I like Andy Burnham but Labour need to calm down, remember the next election is three and a half years away and spare us the continuing leadership psychodrama of the Tory years.

I quite genuinely can’t bear him.

He’s Labour’s answer to Jenrick. All ego and ambition no principles.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I quite genuinely can’t bear him.

He’s Labour’s answer to Jenrick. All ego and ambition no principles.

Harsh comparing anyone to Jenrick but I take your point.

 

[monmouth]

I quite genuinely can’t bear him.

He’s Labour’s answer to Jenrick. All ego and ambition no principles.

He pushes my alarm buttons too. Smug ego personified.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Harsh comparing anyone to Jenrick but I take your point.

It is but there is something about him which is very very similar.

I agree with your previous point about not panicking.

Underneath all the hysteria on social media, the economy is showing some positive signs at last. Borrowing last month was way below even the most optimistic forecasts. Other economic indicators are going in the right direction as well. Starmer is doing ok on the world stage. Beginning to get a grip on the EU question. Immigration figures beginning to get a bit more control. The NHS beginning to catch up, They need to stop listening to the right wing media driven agenda.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

It is but there is something about him which is very very similar.

I agree with your previous point about not panicking.

Underneath all the hysteria on social media, the economy is showing some positive signs at last. Borrowing last month was way below even the most optimistic forecasts. Other economic indicators are going in the right direction as well. Starmer is doing ok on the world stage. Beginning to get a grip on the EU question. Immigration figures beginning to get a bit more control. The NHS beginning to catch up, They need to stop listening to the right wing media driven agenda.

Spot on.

 

[monmouth]

It is but there is something about him which is very very similar.

I agree with your previous point about not panicking.

Underneath all the hysteria on social media, the economy is showing some positive signs at last. Borrowing last month was way below even the most optimistic forecasts. Other economic indicators are going in the right direction as well. Starmer is doing ok on the world stage. Beginning to get a grip on the EU question. Immigration figures beginning to get a bit more control. The NHS beginning to catch up, They need to stop listening to the right wing media driven agenda.

They'd be mental to change Starmer in the next year in my opinion, but they shouldn't block Burnham, they should have the debate. Starmers lack of political skill will finish him barring a miracle, but like him or not (and I'm no cheerleader) there should be a much higher hurdle on switching PM horses in mid stream. Also I would ban any public opinion polls between election windows. The hysteria this nonsense generates is unhelpful.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

They'd be mental to change Starmer in the next year in my opinion, but they shouldn't block Burnham, they should have the debate. Starmers lack of political skill will finish him barring a miracle, but like him or not (and I'm no cheerleader) there should be a much higher hurdle on switching PM horses in mid stream. Also I would ban any public opinion polls between election windows. The hysteria this nonsense generates is unhelpful.

They absolutely shouldn’t block Burnham I agree.

And Starmer suffers from an almost unbelievable lack of charisma for someone in his position and someone with his background. But he needs to get his head down and let actual achievements speak for themselves.

Agree re constant polling. One thing this latest debacle from the orange buffoon has done though is create a very real difficulty for Farage and his bunch of lunatics.

 

[Jack2jack]

They absolutely shouldn’t block Burnham I agree.

And Starmer suffers from an almost unbelievable lack of charisma for someone in his position and someone with his background. But he needs to get his head down and let actual achievements speak for themselves.

Agree re constant polling. One thing this latest debacle from the orange buffoon has done though is create a very real difficulty for Farage and his bunch of lunatics.

I wonder if Starmer went private or had his charisma bypass on the NHS

 

[Smurph]

I wonder if Starmer went private or had his charisma bypass on the NHS

Definitely went private

 

[exiledclaseboy]

One thing this latest debacle from the orange buffoon has done though is create a very real difficulty for Farage and his bunch of lunatics.

He’s given them an out and they’re all over it.

Donald Trump walks back comments about UK soldiers in Afghanistan

After criticism over allegation Nato troops ‘stayed off front lines’ in conflict, US president says UK forces were ‘great and very brave’

www.theguardian.com

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I’m not sure when charisma became a pre requisite for a PM. Not that I’m defending Starmer, he’s been a massive disappointment so far but that’s mostly because he’s afraid of his own shadow and has been nowhere near bold enough. They’re also terrible at communicating, although that’s starting to improve. Slowly.

 

[Jack2jack]

He’s given them an out and they’re all over it.

Donald Trump walks back comments about UK soldiers in Afghanistan

After criticism over allegation Nato troops ‘stayed off front lines’ in conflict, US president says UK forces were ‘great and very brave’

www.theguardian.com

I've just read his statement, it wasnt an apology, more a statement of fact. Unless I havent seen the full one.