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Well... if he was going to be replaced with a dynamic and inspiring player then it wouldn't make us weaker. If, however, he's replaced by someone more dull, more uninspiring and worse at football than him, then it will make us weaker.

No - I thought he was crap too. But we've essentially replaced him (a young full back/centre back) with Christie/Naughton. Which is a downgrade imo.

FEBRUARY UPDATE FROM ANDY Unfortunately, we lost Matt towards the very end of the window. Losing our captain blindsided us and him wanting to go is something we didn't expect. But we let him go because we only want players here who are proud to wear the Swan on their chest, represent your city...

Definitely think there is better out there. But there's no evidence to suggest we'll find it. Which is my point of listing the players I did, I guess. We knew Downes and Piroe would be a massive loss and hard to replace but I expect most of us hoped we'd improve on the likes of Manning...

They seem like they're going to be cut from the same cloth going off what little I have read about him and their respective stats.

Do you think they'll replace him with a player who performs a different function then? There'll be no shake up because they'll just replace him with a worse version.

I don't rate him and I don't think he's any sort of saviour. But we won't replace him with anyone better. Just like we haven't replaced any exiting player with anyone better for a couple of years now. Ntcham, Downes, Rushworth, Piroe, Manning, Latibeaudiere.... the list goes on.

There is absolutely zero chance that the club have decided that they want to change things up in midfield by selling their captain and someone who has played virtually every minute of the last 6 or 7 seasons in January. When we are in freefall and only 7 points above the relegation zone...

That's been a consensus for a few years now and as of yet, it hasn't happened. Not sure what's keeping us up.

On the basis this seems to now be 3 players... I'd go with Bony because he's the best striker we've ever had. Gylfi because even the best striker the world has ever seen wouldn't get a sniff in this team. Then Leon to see off Grimes.

Depends which way you look at it. Cullen is always going to care, irrespective of what he thinks of the manager. Then you look at the goals we conceded and see Key and Tymon give it away cheaply on a couple of occasions and Tymon's gentle jog back for the first one it does make you wonder

And without the intelligence and PR skills. And without winning 4/4 derby matches. I can't stand Martin but you can see why fans of a certain age liked him so much. Someone who is 30 now would have been 12 when Martinez took over, 16 when we got promoted to the Premier League and 19 by the...

But you probably wouldn't be conned into buying snake oil by a charming bloke with nice hair turning up on your doorstep. Thousands would be though.

The Russ fan boys will probably absolutely hate the type of new manager we now need. In hindsight, Duff spoke a lot of sense. You could probably say he was unlucky to lose his job given the records of who he replaced and who replaced him. Edit - and his record everywhere else he's managed.

That twat coming back really would be the end for me, I think.

^ manager

Fair enough mate! Least of our worries though imo. They're crap too but at least they've got some fight about them. We have nothing.

I don't know what Cardiff have to do with anything. You make your own luck in football and we don't deserve any.

Gutless captain, gutless team

Probably doing us a favour beating Derby