Local elections

[Cooperman]

True, its possible that some of them aren't thick, it's not one homogenous mass. I'm sure there are one or two bright people who are genuinely invested in Reform and would consider themselves fully informed and have gone in eyes wide open. I still reckon the vast majority of them are thick though.

I suppose it all boils down to the fact that I don't have a lot of sympathy (a) for people who continually vote against their own interests and/or (b) people who don't do their homework before casting their vote. It's not difficult to read up on politicians and parties, in this day and age it's easier than ever, there is no excuse for being misinformed imo.

As for it not being how you win arguments, then that depends whether you're in it to have an argument in the first place. Me personally, I just prefer to mind my own business and make sure I can look at myself in the mirror when I vote and it ends there for me. I'm not really interested in persuading anyone to change or debate their choices, got far better things to do with my time and in most cases it's going to be utterly futile anyway.

Gullible is more appropriate than thick.

 

[rockinj]

Gullible is more appropriate than thick.

A lot are pretty thick. I’d probably suggest ignorant to the truth and yes gullible is a good word too.

This isn’t a UK issue now though as we see elsewhere. It’ll fade eventually of course but we have to live through a depressing time now.

That’s not to say middle ground politicians haven’t made mistakes and yes immigration concerns were not treated seriously years back. I was one of the ones mentioning it, that period was toxic. Decent people were called racist. That was so dumb and opened the window to the populists.

 

[jack123]

Given I don’t live in an area which stands any chance whatsoever of having Reform represent me my toys are firmly in place thanks.

Nice deflection though. Did you think we wouldn’t notice?

The thing is, it’s not a deflection is it? I’m just stating facts, there is no need to be angry

Just to clarify my stance on this Lisa, I am not promoting Reform, and I will never vote for them.

I was just illustrating the point, that the Labour party, have only been in power a short while, and they are already loathed by the majority.

 

[jack123]

Have you ever considered that the media narrative might play a massive role in people’s views?

Eg if George Osborne had done what Labour did on winter fuel I bet they would have said makes sense we can’t afford it “people need to do their bit”

That’s one example

I know the media have a massive impact. They went to town on the Tories over Party Gate. Absolutely relentless. They just didn’t give up,

Never seen nothing like it.