Entertainment after a hard week in work.

[exiledclaseboy]

Football generally became staid and tedious due to “Pep-ball” and all his inferior disciples, some of whom we inexplicably insisted on employing. But I think that era has ended or is at least ending. There were 69 goals across 18 Champions League games this week. An average of not far off four per game. That change will take a while to cascade down, but it will.

 

[Dr. Winston]

That change will take a while to cascade down, but it will.

Here's hoping.

 

[Michu78]

It’s not clicking yet, agree with you, but these things do take time. Put a first time manager in charge of a load of new players will take time to settle.

I don't think any amount of time will get things clicking.

 

[magicdaps10]

It’s not clicking yet, agree with you, but these things do take time. Put a first time manager in charge of a load of new players will take time to settle.

It was comment sense that we were going to have a high turn over of players and the board would know that if there was a plan in place.
Simple reply would be, they shouldn't have appointed a first time manager if what you are suggesting is true.

I suppose that would be common sense!

 

[CommonCents]

It was comment sense that we were going to have a high turn over of players and the board would know that if there was a plan in place.
Simple reply would be, they shouldn't have appointed a first time manager if what you are suggesting is true.

I suppose that would be common sense!

That would be assuming your expectations align with the ownerships (immediate success from game 1). If this is a long term project then I would imagine a certain timeframe for bedding in the new players was already accounted for and expected as part of that plan.

 

[PenlanJack]

Football generally became staid and tedious due to “Pep-ball” and all his inferior disciples, some of whom we inexplicably insisted on employing. But I think that era has ended or is at least ending. There were 69 goals across 18 Champions League games this week. An average of not far off four per game. That change will take a while to cascade down, but it will.

Pep ball is great if you've got Lionel Messi, Xavi and Iniesta pulling the strings, it's just when some League Two slugger decides to become Maldini and looks like a right tw*t

 

[magicdaps10]

That would be assuming your expectations align with the ownerships (immediate success from game 1). If this is a long term project then I would imagine a certain timeframe for bedding in the new players was already accounted for and expected as part of that plan.

That would be assuming that it's a long term plan regards bedding in players.

What isn't the plan is at this stage after the highest outlay on new signings since relegation from the premier league is the following
16th after 11 league games
1 win in 7
Not winning at home for 9 weeks
Not scoring a goal from open play in the last 3 games.

Based on that, any words are just excuses for me.
Something needs to change and Sheehan is the first in line to do that for me.
As it stands, I believe it's obvious....it's only going one way at present.

 

[Swansea93]

I know we had some shocking showings last season under Sheehan but I did find myself enjoying the games more compared to how it’s gone this season, is it just me?

 

[tardylum]

I know we had some shocking showings last season under Sheehan but I did find myself enjoying the games more compared to how it’s gone this season, is it just me?

We were a better side and better going forward. But I do think it is being mythologised slightly as if it was 3 months of swashbuckling relentless attacking play. Either side of the 5 game winning streak, results were up and down and we probably got a little lucky to win all 5. He did a brilliant job in the circumstances to stabilise us and if he was to leave at some point in the next few months, I would back him to go in and stabilise another relegation threatened Championship side by getting them working hard and well organised. It is just whether he has much else at this stage of his career.

 

[CommonCents]

That would be assuming that it's a long term plan regards bedding in players.

What isn't the plan is at this stage after the highest outlay on new signings since relegation from the premier league is the following
16th after 11 league games
1 win in 7
Not winning at home for 9 weeks
Not scoring a goal from open play in the last 3 games.

Based on that, any words are just excuses for me.
Something needs to change and Sheehan is the first in line to do that for me.
As it stands, I believe it's obvious....it's only going one way at present.

I’d be very sure that our ownership have long term plans, that includes the time to be bedding in players. The league is very different to recent years and we have teams in there that are worth about £200m. £15m spend in a single window is peanuts comparison to other teams in the league and what their players have been signed for. Southampton had ONE player on the bench that they spent that on, nearly every one of their players cost that. Wrexham spent £10m on Broadhead, Birmingham spent £10m on Kyogo, Ipswich spent £17m on Egeli. You have to spend just to stay with the rest of the league. All the above are no more than 2 points above us. It’s a work in progress, let’s keep supporting them. Being negative isn’t going to help them.

 

[magicdaps10]

I know we had some shocking showings last season under Sheehan but I did find myself enjoying the games more compared to how it’s gone this season, is it just me?

No, I enjoyed them also.
It's as if since he got the job, Sheehan has now gone from the plan that he used in his audition to another plan now he has a contract in place.

I can't take it that one player(O'Brien) is the reason either.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

Pep ball is great if you've got Lionel Messi, Xavi and Iniesta pulling the strings, it's just when some League Two slugger decides to become Maldini and looks like a right tw*t

And that sums it up nicely.

I watch the EFL highlights pretty much every week.

You can guarantee there will be at least half a dozen goals across the three divisions either where a goalkeeper has made a twat of himself trying to play a square pass, or some big lump centre back in League Two trips himself up trying to be Gerard Pique.

No one wants to go back to 80s long ball, but asking limited players to do stuff they can't do is taking it too far the other way.

 

[TerryPHELAN]

Imagine how bad Trunds would have looked on a statistical analysis though. We’d have never recruited him these days,

It’s why we are boring.

Looking at the shape on trundle these days, he could probably do a decent job in our first 11!

 

[Dr. Winston]

The changes he made last season to push us further up the pitch and be more aggressive on the ball were really effective and noticeable. It's bizarre how this season we've gone back to living in our own half and being ponderous on the ball. It couldn't have ALL been LOB, right?

I don't think there's anything that LOB did for us last season that Ethan Galbraith isn't capable of doing this time around so you'd have to assume that there's more to it than that.