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There is a large proportion of supporters, and it tends to be the older generation, who have convinced themselves that what they see is the be all and end all of a players assessment.

Stats aren't the be all and end all, but opinions that ignore inconvenient facts (which is what stats are) are pretty worthless.
I've said a million times on here, context is rarely used in today's football.. they all think they're Albert Einstein II.. even these championship 2nd division idiots think they're a deity.. this is why Warnock, Big Sam are more successful, because they're realists.. majority of the championship don't know what they're doing, and they're getting paid millions
 
There is a large proportion of supporters, and it tends to be the older generation, who have convinced themselves that what they see is the be all and end all of a players assessment.

Stats aren't the be all and end all, but opinions that ignore inconvenient facts (which is what stats are) are pretty worthless.
Thats a gold medal post right there.
I have been in search of comparable player we have had in the past and then it came to me

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Its quite spooky. Someone who flashed serious ability but never did anything outside of a goal here and there. A perfectly adequate squad player. Henceforth I shall call him Cedric Van Der Eom.
Lets just hope he starts playing better and I am forced to revise my view. Liam Cullen is an example of a player who I am still convinced isnt good enough, yet who continually proves that view wrong. Long may it continue.
 
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Stats are massive in football

However, Stats should always form part of the end of a conversation not the beginning.
The Eyeball test is the thing.

So, something like :
- anyone with half an ounce of footballing intelligence can SEE that Matty G is supremely talented and we’re lucky to have him as our captain and leader. And all the stats back that up.’
 
There is a large proportion of supporters, and it tends to be the older generation, who have convinced themselves that what they see is the be all and end all of a players assessment.

Stats aren't the be all and end all, but opinions that ignore inconvenient facts (which is what stats are) are pretty worthless.
Stats are great in terms of tracking fitness etc.

When it comes to judging if a player can pass water, I'd rather use my eyes than look at a power point graph.

When it comes to a player losing possession, I'd rather use my eyes to watch his reaction.
 
Thats a gold medal post right there.
I have been in search of comparable player we have had in the past and then it came to me

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Its quite spooky. Someone who flashed serious ability but never did anything outside of a goal here and there. A perfectly adequate squad player. Henceforth I shall call him Cedric Van Der Eom.
Lets just hope he starts playing better and I am forced to revise my view. Liam Cullen is an example of a player who I am still convinced isnt good enough, yet who continually proves that view wrong. Long may it continue.
Fair play, that's the best you can come up with.

I'll give you credit for creativity, Captain Sheom.
 
Where the eyeball test is valuable is that it can pick out qualities and weaknesses that stats alone may not indicate. Eom is a case in point. 0 goals and 1 assist to date and some decent but unexceptional stats. But my eyes tell me we have a quality player on our hands. The way he runs with the ball and glides effortlessly past players is a joy to behold. Also, yesterday his lovely dinked short pass was the key action for the 3rd goal, but he doesn't have an assist or goal to show for it. There's a question mark for me around his decision making, as with Ronald. That's the one thing that may see him fall short of fulfilling his evident footballing talent.
 
Tymon is a good example of where the eyeball test doesn't do a player justice. Pretty much everybody sees that he's a poor defender. To be fair his defensive stats bear that out. Above average on 2 defensive metrics, below average on 7. However, his offensive attributes rarely get the credit they deserve. His expected assists are the best in the league. Ahead of the much hyped wingers Azaz, Doak and Chakvetadze. He's also 7th on chances created and 4th on crosses delivered. Perhaps he'd be getting a lot more praise if the players on the end of the chances he's been creating (here's looking at you Bianchini) had finished them off.
 
Tymon is a good example of where the eyeball test doesn't do a player justice. Pretty much everybody sees that he's a poor defender. To be fair his defensive stats bear that out. Above average on 2 defensive metrics, below average on 7. However, his offensive attributes rarely get the credit they deserve. His expected assists are the best in the league. Ahead of the much hyped wingers Azaz, Doak and Chakvetadze. He's also 7th on chances created and 4th on crosses delivered. Perhaps he'd be getting a lot more praise if the players on the end of the chances he's been creating (here's looking at you Bianchini) had finished them off.
He'd be getting more praise he could defend.
 
Tymon is a good example of where the eyeball test doesn't do a player justice. Pretty much everybody sees that he's a poor defender. To be fair his defensive stats bear that out. Above average on 2 defensive metrics, below average on 7. However, his offensive attributes rarely get the credit they deserve. His expected assists are the best in the league. Ahead of the much hyped wingers Azaz, Doak and Chakvetadze. He's also 7th on chances created and 4th on crosses delivered. Perhaps he'd be getting a lot more praise if the players on the end of the chances he's been creating (here's looking at you Bianchini) had finished them off.
Didn't actually realise his stats were that high. His delivery is as good as anyone in the league tbf.

Doesn't help he's moved into the centre when defending leaving people wondering where he is when a right winger has the freedom of Swansea
 
Didn't actually realise his stats were that high. His delivery is as good as anyone in the league tbf.

Doesn't help he's moved into the centre when defending leaving people wondering where he is when a right winger has the freedom of Swansea
He also lacks the pace to be leaving big gaps to close down.
 
Tymon is a good example of where the eyeball test doesn't do a player justice. Pretty much everybody sees that he's a poor defender. To be fair his defensive stats bear that out. Above average on 2 defensive metrics, below average on 7. However, his offensive attributes rarely get the credit they deserve. His expected assists are the best in the league. Ahead of the much hyped wingers Azaz, Doak and Chakvetadze. He's also 7th on chances created and 4th on crosses delivered. Perhaps he'd be getting a lot more praise if the players on the end of the chances he's been creating (here's looking at you Bianchini) had finished them off.
A wand of a left foot. I’ve no problem with us pushing him up more of the time. If we’ve got any sense we use the tools available (and we have plenty of tools - badum tish!). The issue I have is that we let him get forward but have no plan for how to cover the gap he inevitably leaves. It happens time and time again.
 

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