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    All at JackArmy.net would like to thank everyone who has played a part on this site over the past 25 years whether that is through writing, contributing, moderating, posting or just visting and reading.

    Without any of you the work that has gone into the site would have been pointless and we will always be proud that we built, generated and managed a community that was such a big part of the Swansea City supporting life for so long.

    It has been a pleasure to bring to you the site for so long but the time is now right to turn the lights out for the last time but we do it both with a heavy heart and a sense of pride driven by the so many messages received since we announced the closure.

    The site will remain here for a period until we archive and mothball it for the last time later this summer but all aspects are in a read only format.

    Thank you though for all the memories

    Phil Sumbler
    Owner, jackarmy.net

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ANd for those who do not want to believe the facts of the situation.

The Trust were first informed of the deal when Huw Jenkins and Dineen told myself, Stuart McDonald and Huw Cooze about the possibility. This took place in his office at the Liberty and was a meeting arranged at the request of Jenkins.

Within 48 hours of that meeting an official letter was sent from the Trust informing all the (then) current shareholders that we could be interested in selling if the terms were correct and it was beneficial to the club and Trust.

So its probably for the best that those who say "the Trust say they would never sell" forget trotting out that line as it was conveniently used by the sellers from time to time and has long since been stated it was not true.

The correspondence in question was provided to the QC and the Trusts legal team and formed part of my witness statement
 
PSumbler said:
ANd for those who do not want to believe the facts of the situation.

The Trust were first informed of the deal when Huw Jenkins and Dineen told myself, Stuart McDonald and Huw Cooze about the possibility. This took place in his office at the Liberty and was a meeting arranged at the request of Jenkins.

Within 48 hours of that meeting an official letter was sent from the Trust informing all the (then) current shareholders that we could be interested in selling if the terms were correct and it was beneficial to the club and Trust.

So its probably for the best that those who say "the Trust say they would never sell" forget trotting out that line as it was conveniently used by the sellers from time to time and has long since been stated it was not true.

The correspondence in question was provided to the QC and the Trusts legal team and formed part of my witness statement

It would have been lovely if Patsies such as Wathan, Vincent and DaiSport had been a keen to report these facts as they had in their many articles, wouldn't it?
 
PSumbler said:
ANd for those who do not want to believe the facts of the situation.

The Trust were first informed of the deal when Huw Jenkins and Dineen told myself, Stuart McDonald and Huw Cooze about the possibility. This took place in his office at the Liberty and was a meeting arranged at the request of Jenkins.

Within 48 hours of that meeting an official letter was sent from the Trust informing all the (then) current shareholders that we could be interested in selling if the terms were correct and it was beneficial to the club and Trust.

So its probably for the best that those who say "the Trust say they would never sell" forget trotting out that line as it was conveniently used by the sellers from time to time and has long since been stated it was not true.

The correspondence in question was provided to the QC and the Trusts legal team and formed part of my witness statement

I've corrected that Resloven on the other forum many times regarding this. Just because the trust at one point stated they did not want to sell, It certainly does not mean that they wouldn't want to sell under other circumstances. It's a meek weak cop out excusing the yanks/sellouts behaviour in excluding the trust (whom had a QC endorsed strong case which I presume was partially built on the exclusion).
 
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PSumbler said:
ANd for those who do not want to believe the facts of the situation.

The Trust were first informed of the deal when Huw Jenkins and Dineen told myself, Stuart McDonald and Huw Cooze about the possibility. This took place in his office at the Liberty and was a meeting arranged at the request of Jenkins.

Within 48 hours of that meeting an official letter was sent from the Trust informing all the (then) current shareholders that we could be interested in selling if the terms were correct and it was beneficial to the club and Trust.

So its probably for the best that those who say "the Trust say they would never sell" forget trotting out that line as it was conveniently used by the sellers from time to time and has long since been stated it was not true.

The correspondence in question was provided to the QC and the Trusts legal team and formed part of my witness statement

I've corrected that Resloven on the other forum many times regarding this. Just because the trust at one point stated they did not want to sell, It certainly does not mean that they wouldn't want to sell under other circumstances. It's a meek weak cop out excusing the yanks/sellouts behaviour in excluding the trust (whom had a QC endorsed strong case which I presume was partially built on the exclusion).

Pretty much your comment about a "weak cop out"

The comment comes from two key things

1. A statement made (I think by Huw C) that we did not want to sell in relation to the Moores and Noell deal
2. A belief from MM that a legal adviser to the Trust (who was not the legal adviser but a legal professional with no connection to the board other than he was a member) telling MM one day that the Trust shouldnt sell

The rest has become folklore. And frankly rubbish folklore at that!
 
PSumbler said:
ANd for those who do not want to believe the facts of the situation.

The Trust were first informed of the deal when Huw Jenkins and Dineen told myself, Stuart McDonald and Huw Cooze about the possibility. This took place in his office at the Liberty and was a meeting arranged at the request of Jenkins.

Within 48 hours of that meeting an official letter was sent from the Trust informing all the (then) current shareholders that we could be interested in selling if the terms were correct and it was beneficial to the club and Trust.

So its probably for the best that those who say "the Trust say they would never sell" forget trotting out that line as it was conveniently used by the sellers from time to time and has long since been stated it was not true.

The correspondence in question was provided to the QC and the Trusts legal team and formed part of my witness statement

It’s still being pumped out I see.
Bizarre isn’t it?
 

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