Former Everton Player

[MrSwerve]

You’re entitled to say whatever it is you want to say.

That’s the beauty of Planet Swans.

 

[Jackfath]

Is someone who has the case dropped due to lack of evidence "worse/better" than someone who the CPS decide there is enough to charge but is found not guilty by a jury?

 

[Itchysphincter]

Is someone who has the case dropped due to lack of evidence "worse/better" than someone who the CPS decide there is enough to charge but is found not guilty by a jury?

Valid question. Does case dropped insinuate that it could be picked up again should new evidence come to light? The police might not actively pursue new evidence but this doesn’t come across to me as innocent/not guilty, just not enough evidence for the police to be sure of a ‘win’.

 

[J_B]

It depends on what comes out in court.
In Kevin Johns' case the complainant had suffered abuse but there was no evidence that KJ was the perpetrator so he was rightfully cleared. Kevin said he felt very sorry for the guy for the abuse he had suffered but that it wasn't him that had abused him.

In Ched Evans' case he was technically cleared of rape eventually but what came out in court was that Evans had acted abominably that night and was utter scum.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

If nothing else this thread demonstrates the inadequacies of criminal justice systems. It’s not always as simple as “guilty - definitely did it” or “not guilty - definitely didn’t do it”. And it’s even more of a minefield when deciding whether charges should be brought. While the “No smoke without fire” adage is dangerous nonsense, so is the “well if he hasn’t been charged the accuser must have been lying and made it all up”. It’s a minefield.

 

[Itchysphincter]

If nothing else this thread demonstrates the inadequacies of criminal justice systems. It’s not always as simple as “guilty - definitely did it” or “not guilty - definitely didn’t do it”. And it’s even more of a minefield when deciding whether charges should be brought. While the “No smoke without fire” adage is dangerous nonsense, so is the “well if he hasn’t been charged the accuser must have been lying and made it all up”. It’s a minefield.

Yes.

 

[Swanjaxs]

If nothing else this thread demonstrates the inadequacies of criminal justice systems. It’s not always as simple as “guilty - definitely did it” or “not guilty - definitely didn’t do it”. And it’s even more of a minefield when deciding whether charges should be brought. While the “No smoke without fire” adage is dangerous nonsense, so is the “well if he hasn’t been charged the accuser must have been lying and made it all up”. It’s a minefield.

Aye no winners in this case, and many many more that have gone before.

As a committed atheist the saying "there but for the grace of God go I" always rings true to me.
Peace out