How much longer?

[Itchysphincter]

He’s getting sacked one way of another.

How long will it take. No improvement, no signs of improvement, players of less and less quality signed at every opportunity - there really is absolutely nothing to look forward to at the moment and we have to be realistic and pragmatic.

How long before someone pulls the trigger? Good knows who we’re gonna end up with next time.

 

[Risc]

He’s getting sacked one way of another.

How long will it take. No improvement, no signs of improvement, players of less and less quality signed at every opportunity - there really is absolutely nothing to look forward to at the moment and we have to be realistic and pragmatic.

How long before someone pulls the trigger? Good knows who we’re gonna end up with next time.

We can't afford to sack him and the whole coaching staff though surely?

Someone said on twitter O'Leary hasn't been there lately, is that true?

 

[Stopthebus]

He’s getting sacked one way of another.

How long will it take. No improvement, no signs of improvement, players of less and less quality signed at every opportunity - there really is absolutely nothing to look forward to at the moment and we have to be realistic and pragmatic.

How long before someone pulls the trigger? Good knows who we’re gonna end up with next time.

We can't afford to sack him and the whole coaching staff though surely?

Someone said on twitter O'Leary hasn't been there lately, is that true?

O’Leary was on the touch line last night

 

[Risc]

We can't afford to sack him and the whole coaching staff though surely?

Someone said on twitter O'Leary hasn't been there lately, is that true?

O’Leary was on the touch line last night

Happy days.

 

[cmajack]

He’s getting sacked one way of another.

How long will it take. No improvement, no signs of improvement, players of less and less quality signed at every opportunity - there really is absolutely nothing to look forward to at the moment and we have to be realistic and pragmatic.

How long before someone pulls the trigger? Good knows who we’re gonna end up with next time.

So where are all the posters on here that absolutely wanted Martins football over Coopers boring style? At this moment in time i just want to get some positive results and come away from the stadium a little upbeat because we have won the game. I'm sick and tired of seeing teams clawing back 2 and 3 goal deficits ,and watching several teams scoring goals in added on time to deny us victory. It's a major flaw that the team has under Martin and it doesn't seem to be any closer to getting sorted.

 

[JackSomething]

He’s getting sacked one way of another.

How long will it take. No improvement, no signs of improvement, players of less and less quality signed at every opportunity - there really is absolutely nothing to look forward to at the moment and we have to be realistic and pragmatic.

How long before someone pulls the trigger? Good knows who we’re gonna end up with next time.

So where are all the posters on here that absolutely wanted Martins football over Coopers boring style? At this moment in time i just want to get some positive results and come away from the stadium a little upbeat because we have won the game. I'm sick and tired of seeing teams clawing back 2 and 3 goal deficits ,and watching several teams scoring goals in added on time to deny us victory. It's a major flaw that the team has under Martin and it doesn't seem to be any closer to getting sorted.

I don't remember anyone saying they wanted Russell Martin's football over Cooper's. There were plenty, including me, who were bored to tears by Cooper's football and wanted something more entertaining. Seeing as Cooper's two seasons were ultimately unsuccessful and his team were abject at Wembley, it was clearly time for a change and it seems Cooper himself agreed given his actions that summer.

The fact that Martin looks to have been the wrong choice to replace him doesn't mean it wasn't the right time for Cooper to go. That's conflating two separate issues.

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

We can't afford to sack him and the whole coaching staff though surely?

Someone said on twitter O'Leary hasn't been there lately, is that true?

O’Leary was on the touch line last night

I'd let Chris take over from wuss at the moment, can't be any worse.

 

[dickythorpe]

It's not happening for us to say the very least!

It needs a new fresh approach with far more direction.

 

[3swan]

First last night’s game.
We had a few good chances to score but it does look as if Piroe is struggling with the loan striker role with no support which makes his chances forced and not clean.
Overall I’ve seen worse performances part apart from the few chances it did feel we wouldn’t score due to the lack of clinical passing in the last third. No pace again allows teams to regroup. To be fair to Sheff Utd they were so well organised, they didn’t need to regroup, just hold their positions without being stretched. They passed knowing a player was there, we tended to pass hoping a player was there. I expected a 0-2 score so was fairly calm taking the 0-0 until we all know what came. Subs are questionable, but Cooper offers us some tempo in midfield. Unless he was spent then a mistake to take him off, he needed support not replacing. With Piroe I did think his energy levels dropped around 65-70 mins and needed replacing with one of our loan signings, to close defenders down and at least give them something to think about with more pace. Less heart stopping moments at the back but did scream at the TV a few times with Noooooooo.
Now for more general thoughts.
After the 2 years under Cooper football was dull. Covid didn’t help with no crowds etc. A change was needed either big backing from the board or a change in manager.
Russell came in and said the rights things highlighting what most of us thought.
He needed time as would any manager, but improvement last season wasn’t really seen even though it was mostly comfortable mid table. His reasoning could be accepted up to a point, but even that became more like excuses than reasoning, as improvement was never built on.
The start of the season? wary, but hope to see a marked difference.
Some bright flicker but all the underlying problems were still there.
Martin seems to have underlying issues with some players, and blind spots with others.
Ogbeta? Surely he has something?
NtCham, Paterson and Obafemi attitude concerns?
By now we should have a balanced squad, with the deficiencies corrected, so that players know their role.
Many times our play looks like ‘pass the parcel’
All this made some sort of sense in my mind, but due to frustration, it may be just a word dump

 

[A4Jack]

Many people said that they would give it ten games at the start of this season to see where we are.

Well we're at nine games and if Birmingham get a result tonight we will be 22nd. We can't keep accepting every drop under Martin hoping for an improvement. It's a trend and it's not going to change.

 

[J_B]

I don't think anyone is actually supporting him on here. The overwhelming majority would change him now if they had the power to do so. Some of us were so keen to go back to pass and move football that we were prepared to give him plenty of slack whilst he changed our way of playing.
Unfortunately we didn't get pass and move football we got pass and pass football and moving wasn't encouraged.

The owners won't change before the World Cup break and they'll be looking at the cost of sacking him and his entourage very carefully. I hear the cries of we can't afford not to sack him but I don't think the owners see it like that. If they did sack him they'd be looking at someone not working so no compo and someone prepared to work for very low wages. Toshack? Rangel? or O'Leary?

We're deep in the brown stuff.

 

[Ferryjack]

Why can't we afford to sack him, if we get relegated it will cost the club a lot more in income etc than getting rid of him & his so called coaching team.

 

[sainthelens]

We get relegated, we cant afford not to sack him.

 

[monmouth]

Why can't we afford to sack him, if we get relegated it will cost the club a lot more in income etc than getting rid of him & his so called coaching team.

What's the difference between championship a league 1 payments. I'm not saying you're wrong, nor that dropping into league 1 would be anything other than disastrous but I've no idea as to the revenue implications. The championship is the league that destroys clubs, because of the 'speculate to accumulate' rubbish encouraged by the excess rewards of the PL. Sacking the Bullshitter and his boys would probably cost a fair whack and we are almost certainly already in a bleak place financially.

 

[Swansea93]

Well currently we’re sitting a nice 22nd in the table tonight