Let's face facts

[Itchysphincter]

We have been working with restrictions due to financial constraints following relegation and the loss of significant experienced players, we have been top 6 virtually all season, on our day we can beat anyone despite having a large number of young or inexperienced players.

Those players are mentally and physically drained, Cooper has done an outstanding job considering all those things.

So many people on here looking to blame Cooper and the players for us being in third place and heading for the playoffs. This time last year we were delighted to sneak into the playoffs.

In reality we should be pleased that we are in top half never mind top 6.

The way we play under Cooper is horrible.

Hope that’s okay with you.

 

[Fireboy]

Blue him up

TBH your lot are probably pleased to be away from relegation and maybe a tad disappointed you couldn't maintain that form to get into the play offs.
We have been top six all season, and for much of that challenging for top two.
The change in fortunes for us over the last 15 or so games is very frustrating. The fact we could still make automatic shows what we would have achieved with a few wins here and there.
I understand our fans frustration, but some are just glass empty. Truth is considering our financial constraints we have done really well and could still get promoted whether through playoffs or automatic.
No pleasing some fans

I'm sorry G but I disagree with you last paragraph, yes we have done well considering the financial constraints but if we can do this well with a negative manager how well could we do with a positive manager?

You know me well mate and you know how much I love the swans and how much I want them to do well, you are the same, I think most swans fans are the same as us, we can see that we could do better and thats the frustrating thing.

 

[eteb]

We'll get hammered in the play offs. Lose players over the summer.
League 1 within 3 years.

Shambles.

Give over ffs same shit gets spouted every year. Look at teams like reading and their financial troubles. It amazes me that people still think we are a big enough club to hold on to our prized assets- we never have and never will do. Every team outside the prem (save as Norwich, Watford and muff) have to sell their best players.

Relegated next year rhetoric is boring

 

[monmouth]

TBH your lot are probably pleased to be away from relegation and maybe a tad disappointed you couldn't maintain that form to get into the play offs.
We have been top six all season, and for much of that challenging for top two.
The change in fortunes for us over the last 15 or so games is very frustrating. The fact we could still make automatic shows what we would have achieved with a few wins here and there.
I understand our fans frustration, but some are just glass empty. Truth is considering our financial constraints we have done really well and could still get promoted whether through playoffs or automatic.
No pleasing some fans

I'm sorry G but I disagree with you last paragraph, yes we have done well considering the financial constraints but if we can do this well with a negative manager how well could we do with a positive manager?

You know me well mate and you know how much I love the swans and how much I want them to do well, you are the same, I think most swans fans are the same as us, we can see that we could do better and thats the frustrating thing.

As DrW has said a few times, this ‘financial constraints’ argument is an urban myth. An easy argument to explain Coopers inept use of resources and dreadful, revolting, preferred approach. He would have Barcelona playing shithouse shape if he was there.

 

[Fireboy]

We'll get hammered in the play offs. Lose players over the summer.
League 1 within 3 years.

Shambles.

Give over ffs same s**t gets spouted every year. Look at teams like reading and their financial troubles. It amazes me that people still think we are a big enough club to hold on to our prized assets- we never have and never will do. Every team outside the prem (save as Norwich, Watford and muff) have to sell their best players.

Relegated next year rhetoric is boring

Where has this positivity come from?

 

[STID2017]

TBH your lot are probably pleased to be away from relegation and maybe a tad disappointed you couldn't maintain that form to get into the play offs.
We have been top six all season, and for much of that challenging for top two.
The change in fortunes for us over the last 15 or so games is very frustrating. The fact we could still make automatic shows what we would have achieved with a few wins here and there.
I understand our fans frustration, but some are just glass empty. Truth is considering our financial constraints we have done really well and could still get promoted whether through playoffs or automatic.
No pleasing some fans

I'm sorry G but I disagree with you last paragraph, yes we have done well considering the financial constraints but if we can do this well with a negative manager how well could we do with a positive manager?

You know me well mate and you know how much I love the swans and how much I want them to do well, you are the same, I think most swans fans are the same as us, we can see that we could do better and thats the frustrating thing.

I agree that in spite of everything, a manager in the mould of Brendan, Roberto or even dare I say the hated one at Brentford would have had this team playing much more positively and got the results we needed, even if we had lost a few.
I have to say as well, I know Cooper's failure to rotate hasn't helped, but this tiredness excuse does my head in.
It is the same for all teams, many of who have the same or worse resources than us, yet still manage to maintain form.
Professional athletes being asked to play 50 games a year. My heart bleeds. As for travelling, training, etc that again is the same for all teams, and it isn't like they are crammed in a 17 seater minibus travelling 200 miles is it ?

 

[eteb]

Just pointing out that this rubbish gets spotted year on year

 

[Fireboy]

I'm sorry G but I disagree with you last paragraph, yes we have done well considering the financial constraints but if we can do this well with a negative manager how well could we do with a positive manager?

You know me well mate and you know how much I love the swans and how much I want them to do well, you are the same, I think most swans fans are the same as us, we can see that we could do better and thats the frustrating thing.

As DrW has said a few times, this ‘financial constraints’ argument is an urban myth. An easy argument to explain Coopers inept use of resources and dreadful, revolting, preferred approach. He would have Barcelona playing shithouse shape if he was there.

We have got rid of the highest earners consistently since relegation because of financial constraints, this has shown that the yanks never wanted to 'invest'

We were very lucky that they hired birch as we would have been in trouble otherwise, yes most of us get that we couldn't be thrifty to get back to the promised land too quickly.

 

[STID2017]

I'm sorry G but I disagree with you last paragraph, yes we have done well considering the financial constraints but if we can do this well with a negative manager how well could we do with a positive manager?

You know me well mate and you know how much I love the swans and how much I want them to do well, you are the same, I think most swans fans are the same as us, we can see that we could do better and thats the frustrating thing.

As DrW has said a few times, this ‘financial constraints’ argument is an urban myth. An easy argument to explain Coopers inept use of resources and dreadful, revolting, preferred approach. He would have Barcelona playing shithouse shape if he was there.

I guess you may be right about the financial constraints, and Cooper's lack of nous about how to go out and win games rather than not lose may still cost us.
However while there is hope, I still think we need to get behind the team.
COYS

 

[Fireboy]

I'm sorry G but I disagree with you last paragraph, yes we have done well considering the financial constraints but if we can do this well with a negative manager how well could we do with a positive manager?

You know me well mate and you know how much I love the swans and how much I want them to do well, you are the same, I think most swans fans are the same as us, we can see that we could do better and thats the frustrating thing.

I agree that in spite of everything, a manager in the mould of Brendan, Roberto or even dare I say the hated one at Brentford would have had this team playing much more positively and got the results we needed, even if we had lost a few.
I have to say as well, I know Cooper's failure to rotate hasn't helped, but this tiredness excuse does my head in.
It is the same for all teams, many of who have the same or worse resources than us, yet still manage to maintain form.
Professional athletes being asked to play 50 games a year. My heart bleeds. As for travelling, training, etc that again is the same for all teams, and it isn't like they are crammed in a 17 seater minibus travelling 200 miles is it ?

Now then rotation is another thing I disagree with you, yes others teams are playing the same games BUT coopers lack of rotation meant that the spine of the teams,etc say 8-10 players have been flogged which meant that the standard and intensity of the performances have dropped which explains why it caught up with us culminating in 4 straight defeats, others teams around us rotated consistently meaning their performances didn't drop as bad as ours.

Whether its coopers naivety or his lack of trust in his squad his lack of rotation has cost us a good chance of automatic promotion.

 

[STID2017]

I agree that in spite of everything, a manager in the mould of Brendan, Roberto or even dare I say the hated one at Brentford would have had this team playing much more positively and got the results we needed, even if we had lost a few.
I have to say as well, I know Cooper's failure to rotate hasn't helped, but this tiredness excuse does my head in.
It is the same for all teams, many of who have the same or worse resources than us, yet still manage to maintain form.
Professional athletes being asked to play 50 games a year. My heart bleeds. As for travelling, training, etc that again is the same for all teams, and it isn't like they are crammed in a 17 seater minibus travelling 200 miles is it ?

Now then rotation is another thing I disagree with you, yes others teams are playing the same games BUT coopers lack of rotation meant that the spine of the teams,etc say 8-10 players have been flogged which meant that the standard and intensity of the performances have dropped which explains why it caught up with us culminating in 4 straight defeats, others teams around us rotated consistently meaning their performances didn't drop as bad as ours.

Whether its coopers naivety or his lack of trust in his squad his lack of rotation has cost us a good chance of automatic promotion.

It can only be his naivety and stubbornness, although it also begs the question why pick players to sit on the bench and not use them ?
However, many of us have been watching football for a long time, back to when players didn't have the same access to keeping healthy etc, and the use of science as they do now. Many players played the bulk of the season then, didn't stop teams achieving.
Sorry but if a young man in his prime cant play three games of football in a week there is something wrong

 

[monmouth]

Good article on this stuff

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/18/how-norwich-made-getting-straight-back-to-the-premier-league-look-easy

Brexit Farkes everything up, of course, as it does.

 

[dickythorpe]

Just pointing out that this rubbish gets spotted year on year

All about opinions. Your "rubbish" may be a truth you don't want to hear.
I'm sick of hearing "considering our financial constraints".....do you not see that if that is a valid excuse then we are nailed on to struggle sooner than later?

 

[dickythorpe]

If certain posters on here think we have "overachieved" this season then surely we can't keep that going and we'll eventually inevitably drop down.

 

[CurtessECarr]

Just pointing out that this rubbish gets spotted year on year

All about opinions. Your "rubbish" may be a truth you don't want to hear.
I'm sick of hearing "considering our financial constraints".....do you not see that if that is a valid excuse then we are nailed on to struggle sooner than later?

Agree with you there about excuses for financial constraints. However reading some of the comments here you would think we are the only club outside the PL with Financial constraints other clubs were in serious trouble before covid.