Luke Williams

[Smurph]

Does he actually know what he is doing?

 

[A4Jack]

Needs at least a couple of months yet

Worrying though. Looking clueless

 

[Smurph]

Needs at least a couple of months yet

Worrying though. Looking clueless

I honestly can't see it get any better, would love him to prove me wrong.

 

[TerryPHELAN]

I think what this proves is that the likes of Tjoe-A-On, Pederson and I hate to say Fulton aren’t good enough.
Abulai I can cut some slack with as he’s predominantly a midfielder and not a winger.

 

[Smurph]

I think what this proves is that the likes of Tjoe-A-On, Pederson and I hate to say Fulton aren’t good enough.
Abulai I can cut some slack with as he’s predominantly a midfielder and not a winger.

Agreed on all those points.

What concerns me is the manager doesn't seem to see this.

 

[Skippyjack]

Half the championship don't know what they're doing.. footballers in this division are pretty crap and they're earning millions.. you saw what 2nd division Koln did to us in the friendly.. it was like Cabango and Darling never played the game

 

[sainthelens]

I'm struggling with this defence of Abdulai. He was moving to different positions all night. Yet his passing/vision etc all absolutely dire. There are plenty others equally awful, but I've been watching him closely....this kid just doesn't cut it.

 

[Skippyjack]

I'm struggling with this defence of Abdulai. He was moving to different positions all night. Yet his passing/vision etc all absolutely dire. There are plenty others equally awful, but I've been watching him closely....this kid just doesn't cut it.

But Jasper's boys are good enough to step up mun, keep up, snigger

 

[Deleted member 1454]

Potter - buggered off first opportunity he got

Cooper - preferred to put himself out of work rather than stay here, and spent his last 6 months here with his agent desperately sales pitching him to other clubs

Martin - buggered off first opportunity he got

Duff - was a disaster, but he could justifiably point at his work at Cheltenham and Barnsley before coming here as mitigation

We can criticise Williams all we like, but sooner or later the penny has to drop that we're a bit of a amateurish club that up and coming coaches use for a bit of CV polishing but who then leave to join more serious outfits.

That's where we are. The problems have never really been the coaches - they're a symptom, but not the disease itself

 

[jonboyswan]

I think what this proves is that the likes of Tjoe-A-On, Pederson and I hate to say Fulton aren’t good enough.
Abulai I can cut some slack with as he’s predominantly a midfielder and not a winger.

Ive said on other thread that i think criticism of perderson is alittle harsh. Nervous face next to him and playing on the right side lost us the balance in the first half. Tjoe i dont mind, gets his head up and likes to play forward, got isolated for too often 1st half a against strong and pacy winger.

 

[jonboyswan]

Not sure any championship club has breeded as many premier league managers as us over the last 15 years, 3 above plus rodgers and martinez so clearly the club has done something right in the past

Potter - buggered off first opportunity he got

Cooper - preferred to put himself out of work rather than stay here, and spent his last 6 months here with his agent desperately sales pitching him to other clubs

Martin - buggered off first opportunity he got

Duff - was a disaster, but he could justifiably point at his work at Cheltenham and Barnsley before coming here

We can criticise Williams all we like, but sooner or later the penny has to drop that we're a bit of a amateurish club that up and coming coaches use for a bit of CV polishing but who then leave to join more serious outfits.

That's where we are. The problems have never really been the coaches - they're a symptom, but not the disease itself

 

[cmajack]

Not sure any championship club has breeded as many premier league managers as us over the last 15 years, 3 above plus rodgers and martinez so clearly the club has done something right in the past

Said before, they appoint the right people but unfortunately don't give them the right tools to get the job finished.

 

[jonboyswan]

Said before, they appoint the right people but unfortunately don't give them the right tools to get the job finished.

Money does not grow on trees, we have been punching well above our weight for many years and now our realistic position is being found again. Do we really think any new investors will plough in millions to get us promoted? Time to stop living in the past.

 

[Skippyjack]

Money does not grow on trees, we have been punching well above our weight for many years and now our realistic position is being found again. Do we really think any new investors will plough in millions to get us promoted? Time to stop living in the past.

These owners are paying them millions mun, this myth that they're not backing them is mental, they're putting in millions every year just to stay solvent

 

[Smurph]

Potter - buggered off first opportunity he got

Cooper - preferred to put himself out of work rather than stay here, and spent his last 6 months here with his agent desperately sales pitching him to other clubs

Martin - buggered off first opportunity he got

Duff - was a disaster, but he could justifiably point at his work at Cheltenham and Barnsley before coming here as mitigation

We can criticise Williams all we like, but sooner or later the penny has to drop that we're a bit of a amateurish club that up and coming coaches use for a bit of CV polishing but who then leave to join more serious outfits.

That's where we are. The problems have never really been the coaches - they're a symptom, but not the disease itself

The owners didn't force Williams to pick that side last night, make the subs he did or play the way we did.

Performances like that are the fault of one person and one person only.