Melker Widell

[Flash]

Expand on this, because I can see a discussion about a player. Anything in particular you see as jumping down a throat?

Yeah I would like an explanation on this. It seems a common tactic on here to throw out negative comments, then accuse people of underhand or bullying tactics when they have the temerity to disagree with them.

If people are that sensitive to having their views critically judged maybe they should try being less critical in their posts.

 

[MichuForever]

Well, Rachel said the eggs and rice can be picked up tomorrow morning xx

 

[tardylum]

Do you honestly think it's reasonable to question a players ability after 7 months?

If you can stick to this principle consistently then fair enough. I think it is rare to hold judgement on anything for 12-18 months.

 

[JackSomething]

Do you honestly think it's reasonable to question a players ability after 7 months?

I've been around these forums long enough that I'm used to it happening after 7 minutes, let alone 7 months...

In all seriousness, I think it's fine to question their ability after 7 months as long as you're keeping an open mind and aren't entrenching yourself in a position. It's reasonable to suggest there's a chance Widdell could be more of an Eom than a Vipotnik, although as I've already said, I don't think we can make any definitive judgements yet.

As for NJ's post, I'd say there's posts that argue the opposite to tardylum (which is of course fine), then a quick move to mocking the poster for daring to express a mildly negative opinion, Flash being the worst culprit in this thread.

The likes of Cullen, Key, Ronald are given a far harder time by many more posters and while plenty of us defend them, I don't see the outright hostility shown to those posts as opposed to any claiming the more recent transfer activity is anything less than perfection.

 

[Swanjaxs]

Ffantastig stuff, another young prospect being hung out to dry by the usual culprits on here...

 

[JackSomething]

Ffantastig stuff, another young prospect being hung out to dry by the usual culprits on here...

To copy NJ's approach, what posts are hanging him out to dry?

 

[Swanjaxs]

To copy NJ's approach, what posts are hanging him out to dry?

Melker does seem like a good egg and works hard, but looks lacking in quality in the final third and has not made a big impact. He is about to turn 24 so is not a really young prospect. May be a useful squad player but if we can get our money back, it would not be the worst thing. I do not think that is unfair as we approach 18 months since he signed and 12 since he could play. He definitely does not look like a player who was worth waiting for.

 

[Neath_Jack]

So that’s nobody then, excellent.

I’m off to find me a white steed I can sit atop of.

 

[Smurph]

I've been around these forums long enough that I'm used to it happening after 7 minutes, let alone 7 months...

In all seriousness, I think it's fine to question their ability after 7 months as long as you're keeping an open mind and aren't entrenching yourself in a position. It's reasonable to suggest there's a chance Widdell could be more of an Eom than a Vipotnik, although as I've already said, I don't think we can make any definitive judgements yet.

As for NJ's post, I'd say there's posts that argue the opposite to tardylum (which is of course fine), then a quick move to mocking the poster for daring to express a mildly negative opinion, Flash being the worst culprit in this thread.

The likes of Cullen, Key, Ronald are given a far harder time by many more posters and while plenty of us defend them, I don't see the outright hostility shown to those posts as opposed to any claiming the more recent transfer activity is anything less than perfection.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[Flash]

I've been around these forums long enough that I'm used to it happening after 7 minutes, let alone 7 months...

In all seriousness, I think it's fine to question their ability after 7 months as long as you're keeping an open mind and aren't entrenching yourself in a position. It's reasonable to suggest there's a chance Widdell could be more of an Eom than a Vipotnik, although as I've already said, I don't think we can make any definitive judgements yet.

As for NJ's post, I'd say there's posts that argue the opposite to tardylum (which is of course fine), then a quick move to mocking the poster for daring to express a mildly negative opinion, Flash being the worst culprit in this thread.

The likes of Cullen, Key, Ronald are given a far harder time by many more posters and while plenty of us defend them, I don't see the outright hostility shown to those posts as opposed to any claiming the more recent transfer activity is anything less than perfection.

If you’re going to single me out yes I made a post in jest to highlight how silly it is to write off a player early. Is that outright hostility? I don’t think so, but maybe we have a different definition of hostility. If I offended tardylum then I of course would apologise for that but that was not my intention.

 

[tardylum]

Did not offend me at all. Came across a bit sensitive and hyperbolic but nothing rude or offensive.

 

[Malaga]

Melker does seem like a good egg and works hard, but looks lacking in quality in the final third and has not made a big impact. He is about to turn 24 so is not a really young prospect. May be a useful squad player but if we can get our money back, it would not be the worst thing. I do not think that is unfair as we approach 18 months since he signed and 12 since he could play. He definitely does not look like a player who was worth waiting for.

Tbf, 18 months since he signed is irrelevant, he didn't arrive til summer and barely got a look in under Sheezy, let's wait till season end before making an assessment, give the lad a break

 

[Flash]

Did not offend me at all. Came across a bit sensitive and hyperbolic but nothing rude or offensive.

I think that’s just who I am especially when talking about the Swans

 

[TruckerJack]

I remember when we were minnows in lowly league 2, we could only dream of a 23 year old CM with a Swedish cap. Either some people haven’t been associated with the club very long (some not at all) or have a real poor grasp of our direction of travel. We are a club building, that includes building up and blooding in our players.

 

[tardylum]

I remember when we were minnows in lowly league 2, we could only dream of a 23 year old CM with a Swedish cap. Either some people haven’t been associated with the club very long (some not at all) or have a real poor grasp of our direction of travel. We are a club building, that includes building up and blooding in our players.

Very familiar logical fallacy used by a dearly departed member of the forum who predates your recent arrival.

We are not a League Two team anymore thank god. Expectations are higher and a solitary Sweden cap does not guarantee quality these days when the league is full of international players, indeed our own squad is full of international players, some of whom are seen as great and some of whom are seen as not good enough.

Let us hope Melker improves and becomes a cult hero, but I will base it on his performances in our shirt and not 4 minutes against Northern Ireland.