MP-H goal celebration

[Smurph]

But we also have people who both tell us that stats don't matter and that stats mean everything!

MPH is the perfect example of this, his goal involvements per minute on the pitch is actually relatively impressive, but outside of that for a big man with a lot of pace he rarely uses that height or speed to any real advantage it seems.

There's a reason he is on loan with us and not playing for Brentford.

Cole Palmer is the same age.

 

[jack_lord]

I think there is a very good player in there. He is making mistakes but this is the Championship, just ask our goalkeeper. He is athletic but one thing is peculiar in that he can get out-muscled by quite a few more experienced players. It is his first gig at this level and I get frustrated by his performances but am excited by the talent he actually possesses.

 

[NeathJack]

With the likes of Govea, Parker & Ginnelly all set to become available for selection shortly, I'd be saying thank you very much Mr MPH, but you can now return to Brentford otherwise he's either going to be sat in the stand, or blocking the selection and development of our own players.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

I think there is a very good player in there. He is making mistakes but this is the Championship, just ask our goalkeeper. He is athletic but one thing is peculiar in that he can get out-muscled by quite a few more experienced players. It is his first gig at this level and I get frustrated by his performances but am excited by the talent he actually possesses.

It's not the mistakes that are the problem. Is he making them then? I can't say I've noticed that many.

You have to play an active part in football matches to make mistakes, and from where I'm standing, he doesn't do a lot of that.

What I see is yet another ho-hum PL Academy loanee who is costing us a bomb and frankly just isn't very good and hovers on the periphery of games. We've had too many of these the last 5-6 years.

 

[Dr. Winston]

He probably looks at this site and reads the shit that's thrown in his direction on a regular basis...

Yep. Football fans love to dish it out, but woe betide the player who gives a bit back. Hence the reaction to it.

 

[Cooperman]

With the likes of Govea, Parker & Ginnelly all set to become available for selection shortly, I'd be saying thank you very much Mr MPH, but you can now return to Brentford otherwise he's either going to be sat in the stand, or blocking the selection and development of our own players.

And especially so if a play off spot looks out of the question. I would much rather we further prep Govea, Parker and Ginnelly for next season.

 

[cadleigh]

I hope he does, and I hope some of the other flaky twats that make up most of our current squad read what's said on here and all. It might actually encourage them to pull their finger out.

Fans have got much thicker skins than players - I hope he keeps scoring and keeps shushing us tbh. Crack on.

While I don’t want to minimise the effort that many supporters put in to travel huge distances and part with money many of them can ill afford to back their team, for the players it is literally their career and future earning potential at stake every time they step on the pitch. One bad tackle and a job they’ve been training for most of their lives is out the window. So I can understand why some of them might have thin skins when it comes to criticism they don’t feel they deserve. Plus P-H is 22, which in our day (assuming you are a similar age to me) was equivalent to about 16.

 

[monmouth]

I think there is a very good player in there. He is making mistakes but this is the Championship, just ask our goalkeeper. He is athletic but one thing is peculiar in that he can get out-muscled by quite a few more experienced players. It is his first gig at this level and I get frustrated by his performances but am excited by the talent he actually possesses.

LWTD makes the best point earlier I think. Play him in his preferred position. No point in keeping him and paying a PL loan premium to stick him on the wing. he's still not our player though, so I'd always rather see us develop our own, unless he's a real stand out adding something special like MGW, Guehi and Brewster visibly did. So far, he's nowhere near that special and/or important to the team success for me.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

While I don’t want to minimise the effort that many supporters put in to travel huge distances and part with money many of them can ill afford to back their team, for the players it is literally their career and future earning potential at stake every time they step on the pitch. One bad tackle and a job they’ve been training for most of their lives is out the window. So I can understand why some of them might have thin skins when it comes to criticism they don’t feel they deserve. Plus P-H is 22, which in our day (assuming you are a similar age to me) was equivalent to about 16.

It's a debate we could have all day isn't it, and I accept the points you make about the precarious nature of being a footballer. The flipside of course is that no one holds a gun to their head and forces them to become a footballer, they all know the risks going into it.

I do think players these days are much more hyper-sensitive than they used to be though. I think a lot of them would do themselves a favour by getting off social media, forums etc and just concentrating on the job in hand. Wouldn't do them any harm at all.

 

[FearOfAJackPlanet]

It's his own manager that benched him; he should be 'shushing' Williams if that's the motivation.

He has a knack of being in the right place at the right time, I'll give him that (although as the Sheff Utd game showed, the results aren't always great...). But he seems a little too...clumsy, and slow...to me overall, especially playing out wide. We should play him in the no 10 role now and then; his lack of sprightliness would not be as much of an issue and his knack of getting into goal-scoring positions in and around the box will be maximized.

Or we could just mail him back to Brentford and develop our own talent?

 

[JackSomething]

I do think players these days are much more hyper-sensitive than they used to be though. I think a lot of them would do themselves a favour by getting off social media, forums etc and just concentrating on the job in hand. Wouldn't do them any harm at all.

I don't understand why anyone in the public eye chooses to engage with social media (beyond the need to do so to help your career I guess). If you have enough money to employ people, have one of them be in charge of all your social media if you feel like you have to engage with it and never look at any of it yourself. It cannot be good for your mental health.

 

[monmouth]

I don't understand why anyone in the public eye chooses to engage with social media (beyond the need to do so to help your career I guess). If you have enough money to employ people, have one of them be in charge of all your social media if you feel like you have to engage with it and never look at any of it yourself. It cannot be good for your mental health.

I'm nobody, but I won't sign up to Twatter, Faceache etc. Can't understand the obsession with it. No wonder kids mental health is plummeting reading all that shit and being dependent on other anonymous likes and opinions. It's like taking anyone on here seriously or to heart. Nuts.

Everyone seems to think they are so important and precious these days, and that their opinion matters.

 

[cadleigh]

I'm nobody, but I won't sign up to Twatter, Faceache etc. Can't understand the obsession with it. No wonder kids mental health is plummeting reading all that shit and being dependent on other anonymous likes and opinions. It's like taking anyone on here seriously or to heart. Nuts.

Everyone seems to think they are so important and precious these days, and that their opinion matters.

I love that we are discussing the evils of social media on a social media platform.

 

[JackSomething]

I love that we are discussing the evils of social media on a social media platform.

 

[Darran]

I'm nobody, but I won't sign up to Twatter, Faceache etc. Can't understand the obsession with it. No wonder kids mental health is plummeting reading all that shit and being dependent on other anonymous likes and opinions. It's like taking anyone on here seriously or to heart. Nuts.

Everyone seems to think they are so important and precious these days, and that their opinion matters.

Twitter is superb if you know what you’re doing.