MPPU Increasing In October

[jack123]

I enjoy my Saturday swig. It’s when I’m at my most relaxed. I have a few beers, maybe a bottle of wine later on. We have some kind of takeaway and watch a film. Sometimes I talk shit with you lot on here. I support the principle of a minimum unit price but the extra cash raised should have gone towards support for those with alcohol issues not in the pockets of retailers.

Now that is something, I can completely agree with you on. If the money was going towards good causes, then it would be a less bitter pill to swallow. No doubt if England ever follow Wales and Scotland, then one would think, that any extra cash, would go straight into projects which you have just mentioned.

 

[rockinj]

If you drink quality rather than quantity then minimum price per unit isn't applicable.

This is the problem with this Country though overall.

We moan about no manufacturing anymore yet we want to pay bargain prices for everything.

Which of course means you need to import from overseas

 

[stevethejack]

An example - one of my tipples:

10 cans Stowford Press Cider (4.5ABV)

£8 Tesco England,

Tesco Wales it's £10, after MPPU change to 65p per unit, it'll be £13.

£5 or 62.5% more expensive in Wales

 

[Cooperman]

An example - one of my tipples:

10 cans Stowford Press Cider (4.5ABV)

£8 Tesco England,

Tesco Wales it's £10, after MPPU change to 65p per unit, it'll be £13.

£5 or 62.5% more expensive in Wales

Hmm, that’s substantial. It’s also wrong that it goes to the Tesco bottom line and not good causes.

 

[stevethejack]

10 cans Staropramen (5.0ABV)

Tesco England £11

Tesco Wales £11 after MPPU change to 65p per unit, it'll be £14.30

£3.30 or 30% more expensive in Wales

 

[exiledclaseboy]

I think we’ve firmly established that alcohol is more expensive in Wales.

 

[jack123]

10 cans Staropramen (5.0ABV)

Tesco England £11

Tesco Wales £11 after MPPU change to 65p per unit, it'll be £14.30

£3.30 or 30% more expensive in Wales

It's going to be awful!

And one thing I think about this is, the butterfly affect, I googled earlier how many lives have been saved in Scotland per year since the MPPU was introduced, the figure was something like 260, but then you have to ask yourself a question, how many lives have been lost because it was introduced?

One example I will use for maybe potential harm this increase in price in Wales will do, is that there will be a good few people that will absolutely go across the border, stock up to save money, but then because it's there, be drinking a lot more than they ever would, had the MPPU not been introduced.

 

[Niigata Jack]

Tesco's bottles of Timothy Taylors Landlord ale used to be £6 for 4, now its £7.50 for 4, Glamorgan breweries Welsh Pale is the same, Peroni is £6.50 for 3 500ml bottles

 

[Neath_Jack]

It's going to be awful!

And one thing I think about this is, the butterfly affect, I googled earlier how many lives have been saved in Scotland per year since the MPPU was introduced, the figure was something like 260, but then you have to ask yourself a question, how many lives have been lost because it was introduced?

One example I will use for maybe potential harm this increase in price in Wales will do, is that there will be a good few people that will absolutely go across the border, stock up to save money, but then because it's there, be drinking a lot more than they ever would, had the MPPU not been introduced.

How many lives are lost to alcohol every year, directly or indirectly.

 

[jack123]

How many lives are lost to alcohol every year, directly or indirectly.

Too many, but on the other hand, the stats of people dying in the Uk from obesity, are a lot, lot more.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Too many, but on the other hand, the stats of people dying in the Uk from obesity, are a lot, lot more.

People have to eat, they don’t need alcohol.

There will come a day when people will look back in astonishment that alcohol was a thing. Same as what is slowly happening with cigarettes.

 

[jack123]

People have to eat, they don’t need alcohol.

There will come a day when people will look back in astonishment that alcohol was a thing. Same as what is slowly happening with cigarettes.

Yes, but some people can't control their appetite. Hence the obesity.

But I won't argue with the point you make about in the future people will look back in astonishment, but until then I say scrap the MPPU.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

People have to eat, they don’t need alcohol.

There will come a day when people will look back in astonishment that alcohol was a thing. Same as what is slowly happening with cigarettes.

Alcohol sales will drop through the floor as our generation dies off. Kids these days (I’m talking late teens/twentysomethings) aren’t particularly interested and they don’t drink in anything like the way our generation did/does.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Alcohol sales will drop through the floor as our generation dies off. Kids these days (I’m talking late teens/twentysomethings) aren’t particularly interested and they don’t drink in anything like the way our generation did/does.

Definitely. I mentioned it on here before that all the young apprentices and graduates hardly bother with it, even the ones that play rugby. They’re more interested in fitness in whatever form it may be.

We sort of touched on it at the game today, my 19 year old nephew didn’t come today because he went to Wind St last night, and we were laughing saying they wouldn’t have lived with us at that age, three day weekend and still get into work on the Monday morning.

 

[Smurph]

Alcohol sales will drop through the floor as our generation dies off. Kids these days (I’m talking late teens/twentysomethings) aren’t particularly interested and they don’t drink in anything like the way our generation did/does.

I wouldn't be so sure of that, we've got three in their early twenties and they like a slurp.

How they drink is changing, not sure the quantity is.