"One bad decision doesn't define your season but continual bad decisions gets you relegated"

[SwanseaJack]

We've got a hard run of 10 games now where we play 8 of the top 12, Stoke and Preston. On current form you can't see us picking up a lot of points there.

We've then got 3 home games against Derby, Plymouth and Hull with Sunderland away in between the latter two. Those three games will be vital you feel

Yep, I really don't disagree with what most people say. I am just of the mindset that we will be fine and there is a slight meltdown going on because of the last 3/4 games. Teams in and around the bottom also generally pick up a few more points towards the latter stages of the season.

Realistically we need 16 points from 17 games to be fairly confident we will be safe and we have seen recently how teams fly/drop through the table after only a handful of games. A few scrappy draws and wins and it will all be ok

 

[monmouth]

CarlosCarvahal was the sole architect of our demise in 2018

Nah. His abject cowardice sealed our fate (after HE put us in pole position to survive by absolutely not being an abject coward - what is wrong with these managers). We'd been on a slippery slope since the whole model changed in Monk's second season which was successful in scraped results and, in retrospect, was a terrible outcome. And then came the sale. Our name was on the relegation bullet in short order even if we'd scrambled past Southampton in that awful no atmosphere doomed shootout.

 

[monmouth]

I wonder how much Coleman is panicking right now - on a scale of 10; 7?

I can picture him in his office at the stadium: Williams is probably in the fetal position on the floor unable to cope with the thought of his Grimes comfort blanket being taken away and possibly Darling as well. There's no sporting director to ask to fix things, he's probably under the Grimes spell as well and is picturing relegation and the ruination of all his plans for the club if he doesn't get in quality players in the next few days. All this while wondering how he can possibly be simultaneously in the living rooms of all these targets at the same time, persuading them to sign for us in this window.

I think he'll be playing golf with his mate Gude, totally oblivious to everything. He's a Yank. He'll think Williams will keep us up and he can spin the fans a load of bullshit.

 

[monmouth]

I think Saturday will tell us a lot. At home against a mid table side with a dreadful manager. "We need to" show up like we did against SU first half and actually put them to bed.

A defeat, and especially a bad defeat, and I think we're on a very slippery slope. We have to win. Winning breeds confidence. Look at Scumbo.

 

[J_B]

I think Saturday will tell us a lot. At home against a mid table side with a dreadful manager. "We need to" show up like we did against SU first half and actually put them to bed.

A defeat, and especially a bad defeat, and I think we're on a very slippery slope. We have to win. Winning breeds confidence. Look at Scumbo.

He may or may not be a dreadful manager but he's better than ours. He's managed a new manager bounce for them and got them 5th in the form table over the last 6 games.

 

[Dr. Winston]

CarlosCarvahal was the sole architect of our demise in 2018

No he wasn't.

Paul Clement was far more responsible. We surrendered something stupid like 10-12 points in home games early that season by being utterly terrified to come out of our own half against teams like Leicester and Brighton. Even with Tammy Abraham up front (another in the list of strikers blamed by our fans for how a manager used him). Just one win in one of those games would have been enough. Hell, a draw would have done.

After he took over Carvalhal was on course to keep us up until Leroy Fer got injured. You can check out the points per game we managed with him and without. Something like a point per game less with the shithouse Ki in the centre of our midfield instead.

Edit: - Just checked. Lost at home to Newcastle, Watford, Leicester & Brighton. Failed to beat Bournemouth. 14/15 winnable home points gone begging.

 

[monmouth]

He may or may not be a dreadful manager but he's better than ours. He's managed a new manager bounce for them and got them 5th in the form table over the last 6 games.

That's true. As my sister might say, everything's relative.

 

[Professor]

No he wasn't.

Paul Clement was far more responsible. We surrendered something stupid like 10-12 points in home games early that season by being utterly terrified to come out of our own half against teams like Leicester and Brighton. Even with Tammy Abraham up front (another in the list of strikers blamed by our fans for how a manager used him). Just one win in one of those games would have been enough. Hell, a draw would have done.

After he took over Carvalhal was on course to keep us up until Leroy Fer got injured. You can check out the points per game we managed with him and without. Something like a point per game less with the shithouse Ki in the centre of our midfield instead.

Edit: - Just checked. Lost at home to Newcastle, Watford, Leicester & Brighton. Failed to beat Bournemouth.

I agree-along with Jordan Ayew's red card at Huddersfield, Big Sam parking the bus

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

No he wasn't.

Paul Clement was far more responsible. We surrendered something stupid like 10-12 points in home games early that season by being utterly terrified to come out of our own half against teams like Leicester and Brighton. Even with Tammy Abraham up front (another in the list of strikers blamed by our fans for how a manager used him). Just one win in one of those games would have been enough. Hell, a draw would have done.

After he took over Carvalhal was on course to keep us up until Leroy Fer got injured. You can check out the points per game we managed with him and without. Something like a point per game less with the shithouse Ki in the centre of our midfield instead.

Edit: - Just checked. Lost at home to Newcastle, Watford, Leicester & Brighton. Failed to beat Bournemouth. 14/15 winnable home points gone begging.

I do agree that Clement didn't help with his negativity, but you can't have this discussion without acknowledging:

Gylfi and Llorente >
Sanches and The Ghost Of Bony <

It was like your iPhone charger packing up, so you buy a really cheap and tacky replacement on Amazon for £3 that goes up in flames on first use.

He had absolutely no chance after we'd done that to him. None at all.

 

[Frenchjack]

Derby, Plymouth and Luton are also have horrendous form. Stoke and Hull are also in and around there and struggling. We only need a few more points for safety, and the reality is we should have a win or two in us or a purple patch towards the end of the season when other teams have nothing to play for. We will be fine, but we have left ourselves a lot of work to do over the summer

Whether we survive this season or not the thread title says it all. It’s now like it was in the prem just making bad decision after bad decision and eventually they catch up with you. If it’s not this season it will be next. Look at our last say 6 transfer windows nothing ever changes. Loan signings nothing ever changes. Players out of contract nothing changes. Summer rebuilds year after year nothing changes

 

[NWJack]

7 points from relegation, I'm surprised by the confidence of us avoiding the drop this season

 

[Jacket]

The performance in the first half against Sheffield United is the straw I'm clinging onto. But that was with Grimes, often slowing us down in attack, but a safe pair of hands none the less. I think Coleman realises if the Swedish guy doesn't come until the summer we need someone on loan in midfield. But like many have said, loanees are like sticking plasters over deep wounds, when surgery is required to keep our Championship futures alive. We have to just hope the plasters will keep us here and the new oners do something more lasting to improve us in the summer.

 

[ARQS]

Whether we survive this season or not the thread title says it all. It’s now like it was in the prem just making bad decision after bad decision and eventually they catch up with you. If it’s not this season it will be next. Look at our last say 6 transfer windows nothing ever changes. Loan signings nothing ever changes. Players out of contract nothing changes. Summer rebuilds year after year nothing changes

Correct

But you also add into the mix that the longer it goes on, the harder it is to make good decisions because you're picking from an ever dwindling group of players