Russ to Rangers

[JackSomething]

Don't think their fans are deluded to think they are a big club. In terms of the support they have, they would match most of the top six in the Premier League, and in terms of their tradition along with Celtic they're a huge club. Are they a bigger club than us or the deluded lot down the road? Of course they are! They went down the leagues and kept their support. Where did all our supporters go when we were with the down and outs? I recall gates of 3,000 being common place down the Vetch at one stage.

The fact that they're not doing so well in Europe and the standard of the league has taken a tumble doesn't make them a small club. If they and Celtic were in the Premier League, their sheer support base would take them up the table eventually.

Are they bigger than Villa? No I wouldn't say they are. And the wages they can pay their manager are clearly inferior. However, in terms of support, history and stature I'd put them roughly on par.

I say all this as someone who can't stand Rangers.

I don't think anyone is calling them a 'small' club and obviously they're 'bigger' than us, for whatever that is worth. Just that they have a fraction of the influence in the football world that some of their fans think they do.

Don't buy the argument that their fanbases would somehow take them up the table. Rangers' stadium holds 50k and Celtic's 60k. Newcastle are in between them at 52k and average over 50k attendance most seasons (including their last season in the Championship). Yet their fanbase hasn't taken them up the table, it's going to be the Saudi money that may do it.

Unless they could get away with charging their fans many times more for tickets than every other club in the PL, their fanbases aren't going to do a lot for them. The PL money would help, but if they were added to the PL for next season (which I know is not going to happen) I'd put good money on one of them getting relegated and a slightly smaller amount on both of them going down.

 

[J_B]

This “big club” nonsense is the fallback of supporters of clubs who aren’t very good.

I will declare Cardiff a bigger club than ours if it makes them eternally happy. What I do know is that by any objective measure of a football club, for well over a decade now we have been a better club than them. And that’s what really, really matters.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Some of you "he won't leave us yet", "He's committed to doing a job here" merchants, will never learn aye :lol: :lol:

If Rangers came in and doubled his money, he be off quicker than you could say it's cold in Scotland.

And Rangers are a huge club, as are Celtic, the only deluded fans are the one eyed Swans fans.

 

[Darran]

Some of you "he won't leave us yet", "He's committed to doing a job here" merchants, will never learn aye :lol: :lol:

If Rangers came in and doubled his money, he be off quicker than you could say it's cold in Scotland.

And Rangers are a huge club, as are Celtic, the only deluded fans are the one eyed Swans fans.

Well said friend you’re right again.

 

[Longlostjack]

Wherever you go in the world you see people with Celtic shirts. I‘m no Celtic fan but can’t see how Rangers are a big club outside Scotland.

 

[JonTheJack]

Some of you "he won't leave us yet", "He's committed to doing a job here" merchants, will never learn aye :lol: :lol:

If Rangers came in and doubled his money, he be off quicker than you could say it's cold in Scotland.

And Rangers are a huge club, as are Celtic, the only deluded fans are the one eyed Swans fans.

I think the majority of people have stated that they would expect any manager to leave should most teams above us come in for them. However I'd disagree that Rangers is as attractive as where he is currently unless he has a deeper affiliation with them.

Surely Russ and his ilk's goal is to land a PL job. He will get that if he does well here in two seasons, hell, one season for that matter going on what's happened with us in the past. The pattern is do a good job here and you end up in the PL.

Going to say I agree with the above posts taking club size measured by the amount of fans that turn up as a factor with regards to climbing the PL table should they be in it. Really BMP that.