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BBC: Now, the Kremlin has suggested comments from Foreign Secretary Liz Truss were the reason that Russia put its nuclear forces on heightened alert, according to the Russian news agency Interfax.
"There had been statements by various representatives at various levels about possible conflict situations and even collisions and clashes between Nato and the Russian Federation," said Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for Vladimir Putin.
"We consider such statements absolutely unacceptable. I will not name the authors of these statements, although it was the British foreign secretary."

And let's remember that she could potentially be our next Prime Minister.
 
Ebo said:
Now I thought yesterday that this was a coincidence. She opens her gob and Putin goes into meltodown.

Sack her now before she goes too far

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60558048

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Glyn1 said:
BBC: Now, the Kremlin has suggested comments from Foreign Secretary Liz Truss were the reason that Russia put its nuclear forces on heightened alert, according to the Russian news agency Interfax.
"There had been statements by various representatives at various levels about possible conflict situations and even collisions and clashes between Nato and the Russian Federation," said Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for Vladimir Putin.
"We consider such statements absolutely unacceptable. I will not name the authors of these statements, although it was the British foreign secretary."

And let's remember that she could potentially be our next Prime Minister.


She’s also taking the opportunity to let us know this will harm our economy too. She and the rest of Boris’s cabinet are absolute scum. I doubt we’ve ever had a low calibre, vile set of scum in charge.
 
Itchysphincter said:
She’s also taking the opportunity to let us know this will harm our economy too. She and the rest of Boris’s cabinet are absolute scum. I doubt we’ve ever had a low calibre, vile set of scum in charge.

Certainly not in my lifetime (born late 50s) and I thought I'd seen some crap. UK is basically a rogue state being run by criminals and fuckwits. Totally irrelevant to anything that matters, but still useful idiots to people like Putin and his money men that also fund the imbeciles.
 
jacabertawe said:
Putin now using cluster bombs directly against civilians

War crimes if proven. He’s f*cked one way or an other, it’s just a worry how many he takes with him along the way.
 
Itchysphincter said:
jacabertawe said:
Putin now using cluster bombs directly against civilians

War crimes if proven. He’s f*cked one way or an other, it’s just a worry how many he takes with him along the way.

Can't help but try to look at the end game for him here. He's felt untouchable for 20 years, the more resistance he's gonna get ( and he will), honestly think he will lash out with a nuke.
The oligarchs who work 'with ' him surely the key here. Their lifestyles are fcked the longer this goes on.
 
Channelling my inner Bony, but it seems to me that we are absolutely in the middle of a third world war now, we just haven't realised it yet. I do believe Putin is going for broke now and would use nukes, chemicals, biologicals, Chernobyl etc against all western countries outside his borders without compunction. Salisbury on a massive scale if you like. I hope the lazy complacent leaders in the west are awake to the reality of this. It won't stop at Ukraine now whatever happens. He knows he's finished if he allows this to catch up with him, so he will keep escalating. Backing down would mean the end for him, or a chance to regroup before the next criminal act.
 
If Putin's mental state has descended to a level where he is really contemplating using nuclear weapons , even tactical ones , you would hope his own generals would step in at that point , they are the only people who can remove him
 
Best_loser said:
If Putin's mental state has descended to a level where he is really contemplating using nuclear weapons , even tactical ones , you would hope his own generals would step in at that point , they are the only people who can remove him

Do you think Hitler's generals could or would have stopped him if he'd had the weapons? Soviet power structure, Putin's words ('Ukraine Solution'), his expansionist dreams, and his general demeanor are all Hitleresque. This is a genuine existential threat if it can't be de-escalated somehow, and how the hell do you de-escalate a frothing rabid dog if you can't shoot it.
 
monmouth said:
Best_loser said:
If Putin's mental state has descended to a level where he is really contemplating using nuclear weapons , even tactical ones , you would hope his own generals would step in at that point , they are the only people who can remove him

Do you think Hitler's generals could or would have stopped him if he'd had the weapons? Soviet power structure, Putin's words ('Ukraine Solution'), his expansionist dreams, and his general demeanor are all Hitleresque. This is a genuine existential threat if it can't be de-escalated somehow, and how the hell do you de-escalate a frothing rabid dog if you can't shoot it.

Some of Hitler's generals did try and if it was not for a table leg they would have succeeded
Putin will have a structure in place to prevent it but that can be breached , an existential threat to the whole world , I would expect some kind of attempt to remove him from within the Russian military , if as is being suggested Putin has lost touch with reality for whatever reason , could be illness
 
I suggested this the other day on Reddit and got downvoted. Just call me Kofi Annan :mrgreen:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t3zu5r/ukraine_is_offering_47000_usd_asylum_in_another/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
 
That convoy heading to Kyiv, this is starting to look ominous.

This escalates big time from here I think.
 
Risc said:
That convoy heading to Kyiv, this is starting to look ominous.

This escalates big time from here I think.

I get the same feeling. What started out as a bit of a damp squib is now on an exponential curve towards doom. This mornings footage of Kharkiv is shocking to say the least, innocent civilians going about their necessary movements and getting obliterated.
 
With the world and more the point Brussels saying we will stand up for and by Ukraine, this is hurtling head long very quickly as the Ruskies 40 mile long trail of tanks move in to Kiev. Time gonna come they gonna have use force against Putin....and there endeth everything.
 

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