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Season 20/21: Swansea City v Bristol City Match Thread

What will the result be against Bristol City

  • Swans win

    Votes: 15 50.0%
  • Draw

    Votes: 8 26.7%
  • Bristol City win

    Votes: 7 23.3%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .
PSumbler said:
Captain_Sham said:
1-0 to the Arsen... sorry... Swansea.

Clearly the two things are not exclusive of each other but would people be happier on Saturday night with

a 1-0 win secured off the back of a performance akin to the Forest and Coventry game or
a 2-1 defeat where we saw some free flowing football and a great attacking performance

As I said clearly not exclusive and there should be no reason why both aren't possible but I think the question is relevant

As I said no one can argue with the results. I enjoy the clean sheets. It’s a 4-1 humping I don’t enjoy. I’d take a 1-0 now. It’s just this seeming idea that we are looking to play differently. Or indeed should, if we keep harvesting the points. I would like to see us try an Ayew free option, as the one time we did that, we scored 5.
 
PSumbler said:
Captain_Sham said:
1-0 to the Arsen... sorry... Swansea.

Clearly the two things are not exclusive of each other but would people be happier on Saturday night with

a 1-0 win secured off the back of a performance akin to the Forest and Coventry game or
a 2-1 defeat where we saw some free flowing football and a great attacking performance

As I said clearly not exclusive and there should be no reason why both aren't possible but I think the question is relevant

The 1-0 win for me without question

I think there ought to be a third option though

“won’t be happy with whatever we do”

I think one or two on here would probably go for that if they were honest with themselves.
 
Pontyjack said:
PSumbler said:
Clearly the two things are not exclusive of each other but would people be happier on Saturday night with

a 1-0 win secured off the back of a performance akin to the Forest and Coventry game or
a 2-1 defeat where we saw some free flowing football and a great attacking performance

As I said clearly not exclusive and there should be no reason why both aren't possible but I think the question is relevant

The 1-0 win for me without question

I think there ought to be a third option though

“won’t be happy with whatever we do”

I think one or two on here would probably go for that if they were honest with themselves.

Quite possibly there are quite a few posters here (and elsewhere on various mediums) who seem to want Cooper to fail as it will vindicate their view held almost since he arrived.

Indeed I read someone (and I genuinely cannot remember where) say that we "are where we are despite Cooper not because of him" - can you believe that is a real view?
 
PSumbler said:
Quite possibly there are quite a few posters here (and elsewhere on various mediums) who seem to want Cooper to fail as it will vindicate their view held almost since he arrived.

Indeed I read someone (and I genuinely cannot remember where) say that we "are where we are despite Cooper not because of him" - can you believe that is a real view?
Its an easy thing to say, usually trotted about people who refuse to credit managers they have gone on record as disliking.
Strangely, I have never seen anyone back it up with facts. Ever.
 
Captain_Sham said:
PSumbler said:
Quite possibly there are quite a few posters here (and elsewhere on various mediums) who seem to want Cooper to fail as it will vindicate their view held almost since he arrived.

Indeed I read someone (and I genuinely cannot remember where) say that we "are where we are despite Cooper not because of him" - can you believe that is a real view?
Its an easy thing to say, usually trotted about people who refuse to credit managers they have gone on record as disliking.
Strangely, I have never seen anyone back it up with facts. Ever.

There never will be facts because simply its bollocks :lol:

We are where we are right now because it is where we deserve to be, as a unit.

Your first statement is bang on the money
 
PSumbler said:
Captain_Sham said:
1-0 to the Arsen... sorry... Swansea.

Clearly the two things are not exclusive of each other but would people be happier on Saturday night with

a 1-0 win secured off the back of a performance akin to the Forest and Coventry game or
a 2-1 defeat where we saw some free flowing football and a great attacking performance

As I said clearly not exclusive and there should be no reason why both aren't possible but I think the question is relevant

We used to have that debate in the Sousa season. Back then I was firmly on the side of wanting entertaining football even if it led to worse results.

It was a different scenario though. The season before we'd been so entertaining, so it was more disappointing to be watching such drab football. We also never got higher than 4th all season, so automatic promotion was never as close as it is this season. I also think we are capable of playing better football now than we did under Sousa and have done so at times this season. This team probably has more talent than that team did, certainly in terms of goalscorers.

So maybe it's those different factors, maybe what's happened to us since then, or maybe just because I'm older now, but I would definitely choose option A and I would be delighted it that's what we had for the rest of the season if it leads to promotion.
 
Big game tomorrow and potential banana skin, but I think we'll navigate it.

We should have too much for Bristol City if we play at our best. Massengo + Wells are bright players for them, but with their injury list they dont' have much else to worry about.

I can see a comfortable 2-0
 
PSumbler said:
Captain_Sham said:
Its an easy thing to say, usually trotted about people who refuse to credit managers they have gone on record as disliking.
Strangely, I have never seen anyone back it up with facts. Ever.

There never will be facts because simply its bollocks :lol:

We are where we are right now because it is where we deserve to be, as a unit.

Your first statement is bang on the money

Yep. It's like a 'fan' claiming de Vries wasn't good enough to be our goalkeeper in League 1 and keeping to that line even while we breezed to the League 1 title, then finished 8th, 7th and 3rd in the Championship...

Or that Mark Gower was crap in League 1 and refusing to budge while he was a regular for the same seasons as Dorus and even played 20 times in a side good enough to finish 11th in the PL...

Some people will do anything to avoid admitting they were wrong, which says a lot about them. I'm wrong all the time. I thought appointing Monk as permanent manager without interviewing anyone else was a huge mistake, then I changed my mind when he led us to our highest ever PL finish, only to change my mind again when we saw the long-term affects of his time in charge.
 
We are where we are because of Cooper. I want every Swans manager to succeed all this changing managers is not good for the club, players or supporters. Mid table with potter last season play offs and this season could be automatic, you can’t get better than that. Tha big big step would be PL. Although Cooper has been a coach for 20 years this is his first senior manager job, so he is still learning and improving. I like the fact he goes for young hungry players who want to prove themselves yes his game management could be better but he is getting there. COYS
 
Steve Cooper is averaging 1.7 points a game after 76 games. That speaks for itself.
 
One thing to note looking at the below is the amount of hamstring injuries that are happening at the moment:

From Bristol City page:

Alfie Mawson (knee injury) Out for 16 games.

Andi Weimann: (ACL injury) Out for the season. 21 games missed

Chris Martin: (hamstring injury) Two games missed so far; suffered in training, ruled out for several months and unlikely to play again this season

Owura Edwards: (COVID-19 isolating though negative result) Missed the game against Cardiff City; back in 10 days.

Opi Edwards: (calf) Missed 6+ games. Was due to start against Luton Town but a calf injury picked up in training has ruled him out. Return TBC.

Chris Brunt: (Calf injury) A mutually agreed termination of his contract was announced following a bad calf injury that would stop him playing for three months.

Nathan Baker: (hamstring injury) Has missed the entire season so far with a hamstring tear suffered in pre-season that was recently compounded by another injury sustained ruling him out for the next month.

Steven Sessegnon (hamstring injury) Out for 21 games so far: suffered injury v Swansea at home. Expected back soon.

Jay Dasilva (shin injury) Out for 16+ games missed

Cameron Pring (hamstring injury) Out six+ games


Add to that Rico Henry and Todd Cantwell, it's massive amount of hammy injuries.

With that in mind I think we should rest Ayew as he's the explosive type of player that could risk hamstring. Best to rest him for two games than lose him for 10 I think.
 
BEN CABANGO | DESIRE AND GAME MANAGEMENT KEY TO NARROW WINS

Source: Swansea Official Site

Ben Cabango believes desire and game management have been the backbone to a number of Swansea City’s narrow victories this season.

The Welshman headed home the only goal of the game on Wednesday night as the Swans picked up their 17th win of the Championship campaign against Coventry City.

Five of those victories have come via a 1-0 scoreline, with Steve Cooper’s side boasting the best defensive record in the EFL thanks to 17 clean sheets this term.

Cabango, who took his tally to four for the season thanks to his latest effort against the Sky Blues, said: “These 1-0 wins show the desire we have as a team. I think they are one of the most important victories you can get - knowing we can keep clean sheets and how to manage the game as well.

“We've had a few of those this season. We'll just keep building, keep the momentum and hopefully, we can see it out until the end of the season.”

The Swans are on home soil again this weekend, with Bristol City the visitors to the Liberty on Saturday (3pm).

It sees former loanee Kasey Palmer return to SA1, while ex-Robins midfielder Korey Smith will be in contention to face his former club after coming off the bench against Coventry in midweek.

The visitors will see Nigel Pearson - who was at the Liberty on Wednesday to see the Swans in action - take charge for the first time following his appointment.

And Cabango is under no illusion as to the task that awaits the Swans.

“There are no easy games in the Championship, we just have to take every game as it comes,” said the 20-year-old, who has just passed 50 appearances for the Swans.

“I think we're doing well at the moment by just focusing on each game. Bristol City is going to be a really tough game, we need to focus and recover for that and be at our best.”

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KOREY SMITH RELISHING FIXTURE THAT HELPED SEAL SWANSEA CITY SWITCH

Source: Swansea Official Site

Swansea City versus Bristol City at the Liberty will forever be a notable game for Korey Smith for a number of reasons.

The midfielder, who spent six years at Ashton Gate, welcomes his former employers to SA1 on Saturday as the visitors are led by new boss Nigel Pearson for the first time.

Smith has a lot of affection for the Robins, for whom he played 196 times – the last of which came in a 1-0 defeat at the Liberty in July as the Swans’ play-off hopes were taken to the final day courtesy of Connor Roberts’ goal and a missed penalty from Famara Diedhiou.

It was Smith’s performance that day that led to his move to south west Wales just under a month later on a free transfer.

“It was a really good game, and Bristol City still had a chance to get into the play-offs but Swansea obviously went on to win,” said the 30-year-old.

“I was out of contract that summer and, as I had been injured for some time, I think Bristol City felt I was a bit of a risk in terms of offering a new deal.

“I was told that the gaffer (Steve Cooper) was asking the Bristol City staff about me, and was impressed with how I was so vocal on the pitch, commanding and encouraging my team-mates. He said later on when we met that he wanted more of that in the team.

“Little did I know that day that my performance for Bristol City would pave my way here to Swansea.”

Smith’s time with the Robins saw him help them top League One as champions in his first season at the club in 2014-15. His performances also saw named in the division’s PFA team of the year.

And Smith, who has recently returned from injury by featuring in the wins over Nottingham Forest and Coventry City, is looking forward to locking horns with some familiar faces – including former Swans loanee Kasey Palmer, who is now back with his parent club.

“It’s a club that is close to my heart. I spent six years there – my children were born in Bristol,” he added.

“I had great times there, but obviously it’s business as usual on Saturday. When that whistle goes, it’s all about getting three points. After the whistle, I can say hello to a few friends.

“Kasey messaged me on Thursday morning, so it will be nice to see him.

“They’ve got a new manager and they will be looking to impress him. They come here with confidence after beating Middlesbrough in midweek, but we’ll focus on ourselves and look to do what we can to win.”

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TALKING TACTICS | SWANSEA CITY V BRISTOL CITY

Source: Swansea Official Site

Football stats experts WhoScored.com take a closer look at the form of Freddie Woodman, and examine why he can be a key figure in Swansea City's clash with Bristol City.

Swansea City delivered the perfect response to their 4-1 loss to Huddersfield last weekend with a 1-0 victory over lowly Coventry in midweek to get their promotion push back on track.

While results elsewhere went against them, as Watford and Brentford both won, Swansea are still just a point off second with two games in hand on those around them, so they need to keep putting the wins on the board to remain in the hunt for a automatic promotion spot.

Next up for the Swans this week is the welcome of Bristol City as they look to maintain their excellent home form. Indeed, Swansea are on a 13-match unbeaten streak at the Liberty Stadium, that the second longest in the Championship this season, and a run they'll seek to extend against the Robins.

Bristol City may have earned all three points against Middlesbrough in midweek, but that 3-1 victory ended a seven-match away losing run. It's a morale boost for the West Country outfit, however, they'll be aware of the difficulty of the challenge facing them this weekend.

Nigel Pearson's new side may have scored 18 times in 16 away matches, but Swansea boast the best defensive record in the division having conceded just 19 times in 2020/21, and just six times in 16 games at the Liberty Stadium. A key figure in their solid defensive resolve has been the performances of goalkeeper Freddie Woodman.

Another clean sheet against Coventry on Wednesday means Woodman has 17 to his name this season, that at least four more than any other Championship goalkeeper at the time of writing. The 23-year-old's solid goalkeeping displays have seen him develop a statistically calculated WhoScored.com strength of 'saving close range shots', that one of four strengths to his name.

Swansea earned a 1-0 win over Bristol City in this fixture last season and, while that was a game Woodman missed, the Swans will be looking to ensure another goalless afternoon for the visitors. With the on-loan goalkeeper impressing between the sticks, Swansea will have their sights set on another three points on home turf.

However, Swansea will be well aware they can't rock up and expect to secure all three points with ease. Famara Diedhiou ended a seven-game goalless run with a brace in Bristol City's 3-1 win over Middlesbrough in midweek in a man-of-the-match display at the Riverside.

Diedhiou has scored more league goals (eight) than any other Robins player this season, with his two goals in midweek his first and second on the road in 2020/21.

He'll be out to build upon that brace against Boro when he takes on Swansea's strong rearguard at the Liberty Stadium. With the Swans returning to winning ways, Steve Cooper will be demanding his side use that 1-0 victory over Coventry as a solid foundation to build another unbeaten run when they take on Bristol City and, with Woodman impressing, another clean sheet would only boost their chances.

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