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Shamima Begum can return to UK to fight citizenship, Court of Appeal rules

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Flashberryjack said:
Who is funding her legal team ?

We are...


<< Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said the idea of the provision of legal aid to Ms Begum made him "very uncomfortable".

Mr Hunt added, however, that the UK was "a country that believes that people with limited means should have access to the resources of the state if they want to challenge the decisions the state has made about them".

Legal aid is financial assistance provided by the taxpayer to those unable to afford legal representation themselves, whether they are accused of a crime or a victim who seeks the help of a lawyer through the court process.>>
 
Amazing all the gammons have slagged off a 15 years old vunerable girl yet said nothing about/against the man who groomed her..........


She was a child........
 
Epaul said:
Amazing all the gammons have slagged off a 15 years old vunerable girl yet said nothing about/against the man who groomed her..........


She was a child........

Whose the guy that groomed her? Hopefully he was in the wrong place at wrong time when one of our drones were doing a bit work work over there.

As many have said, she was old enough to know what she was doing, she still agrees with the principles of ISIS now, said so herself in the media.
 
Dear God.
A vulnerable girl? For vulnerable,seek out many white ,working class ex milltown girls who've been groomed by Asian gangs but the crimes have been ignored by Police;moreover being made to feel like young prostitutes.These girls had no chance with no home life ,abusive "parent" ,and a stinking home. Was Begum subjected to this.?

Begum has chosen this life.15 or not.

What is there so attractive about mass slaughter,praise to allah,and bombing of OUR people at the likes of MEN. What is it that attacks someone to that.


We have had wholescale butchery on our streets YET we seek to excuse it or make political points normally anti Tory. We are a sick ,deeply depraved country, that actually encourages those this country has given shelter, to actually then turn around to cut off the bodies of those who gave them refuge.
 
Toronto_Motors said:
Dear God.
A vulnerable girl? For vulnerable,seek out many white ,working class ex milltown girls who've been groomed by Asian gangs but the crimes have been ignored by Police;moreover being made to feel like young prostitutes.These girls had no chance with no home life ,abusive "parent" ,and a stinking home. Was Begum subjected to this.?

Begum has chosen this life.15 or not.

What is there so attractive about mass slaughter,praise to allah,and bombing of OUR people at the likes of MEN. What is it that attacks someone to that.


We have had wholescale butchery on our streets YET we seek to excuse it or make political points normally anti Tory. We are a sick ,deeply depraved country, that actually encourages those this country has given shelter, to actually then turn around to cut off the bodies of those who gave them refuge.
So what you're saying is, grooming 15 year old white girls is a hideous crime but grooming 15 year old Asian girls isn't?
 
Sherpa said:
Toronto_Motors said:
Dear God.
A vulnerable girl? For vulnerable,seek out many white ,working class ex milltown girls who've been groomed by Asian gangs but the crimes have been ignored by Police;moreover being made to feel like young prostitutes.These girls had no chance with no home life ,abusive "parent" ,and a stinking home. Was Begum subjected to this.?

Begum has chosen this life.15 or not.

What is there so attractive about mass slaughter,praise to allah,and bombing of OUR people at the likes of MEN. What is it that attacks someone to that.


We have had wholescale butchery on our streets YET we seek to excuse it or make political points normally anti Tory. We are a sick ,deeply depraved country, that actually encourages those this country has given shelter, to actually then turn around to cut off the bodies of those who gave them refuge.
So what you're saying is, grooming 15 year old white girls is a hideous crime but grooming 15 year old Asian girls isn't?

No.Read again.
 
Toronto_Motors said:
TheLoneRanger said:
There's still a long way to go in this case. The Home Office will definitely appeal this decision and it could eventually end up in the Supreme Court.

Apparently they are.
It is judges who have decided this and it shows just how they think.It (they) terrify me,genuinely.

Ive seen, first hand, the result of bombing and it's not pretty but thoe make these decision are cossotted well away from such evil. It is us ,poor feckers,who are so much at risk.

We have to to all we can to protect our people.This girl did all she could to destroy. Radicalised or not,we are assuming she is somehow fit to mingle amongst the denizens of our towns and cities.It is one hell of a judgement and the most risky one I can imagine.

I would have thought that if she regains her citizenship she'll going on trial and they'll find compelling evidence to convict her of terror offences, and then lock her up for a while. I doubt she'll be out mingling in polite society in any case.
 
Toronto_Motors said:
Sherpa said:
Toronto_Motors said:
Dear God.
A vulnerable girl? For vulnerable,seek out many white ,working class ex milltown girls who've been groomed by Asian gangs but the crimes have been ignored by Police;moreover being made to feel like young prostitutes.These girls had no chance with no home life ,abusive "parent" ,and a stinking home. Was Begum subjected to this.?

Begum has chosen this life.15 or not.

What is there so attractive about mass slaughter,praise to allah,and bombing of OUR people at the likes of MEN. What is it that attacks someone to that.


We have had wholescale butchery on our streets YET we seek to excuse it or make political points normally anti Tory. We are a sick ,deeply depraved country, that actually encourages those this country has given shelter, to actually then turn around to cut off the bodies of those who gave them refuge.
So what you're saying is, grooming 15 year old white girls is a hideous crime but grooming 15 year old Asian girls isn't?

No.Read again.

What point were you making then?
 
Toronto_Motors said:
Sherpa said:
Toronto_Motors said:
Dear God.
A vulnerable girl? For vulnerable,seek out many white ,working class ex milltown girls who've been groomed by Asian gangs but the crimes have been ignored by Police;moreover being made to feel like young prostitutes.These girls had no chance with no home life ,abusive "parent" ,and a stinking home. Was Begum subjected to this.?

Begum has chosen this life.15 or not.

What is there so attractive about mass slaughter,praise to allah,and bombing of OUR people at the likes of MEN. What is it that attacks someone to that.


We have had wholescale butchery on our streets YET we seek to excuse it or make political points normally anti Tory. We are a sick ,deeply depraved country, that actually encourages those this country has given shelter, to actually then turn around to cut off the bodies of those who gave them refuge.
So what you're saying is, grooming 15 year old white girls is a hideous crime but grooming 15 year old Asian girls isn't?

No.Read again.

I see, you're saying at the age of 15 Asian girls are wiser and more mature than white girls? Hence White girls need access to the courts and criminal justice system that Asian girls don't
 
Prince Andrew would love some of the posters in this thread.

15 year old girl, knew what she was doing.

No case to answer your honour.
 
Neath_Jack said:
Prince Andrew would love some of the posters in this thread.

15 year old girl, knew what she was doing.

No case to answer your honour.

Oh dear
 
Risc said:
Neath_Jack said:
Prince Andrew would love some of the posters in this thread.

15 year old girl, knew what she was doing.

No case to answer your honour.

Oh dear

It’s a for point, isn’t it?

15 year old girl groomed and sexually abused - obviously victims and deserve the protection of the state and the full force of the law in their favour.

15 year old girl groomed and radicalised - obviously knew her own mind and knew what she was doing. Let her rot, the law doesn’t apply here.
 
exiledclaseboy said:
Risc said:
Neath_Jack said:
Prince Andrew would love some of the posters in this thread.

15 year old girl, knew what she was doing.

No case to answer your honour.

Oh dear

It’s a for point, isn’t it?

15 year old girl groomed and sexually abused - obviously victims and deserve the protection of the state and the full force of the law in their favour.

15 year old girl groomed and radicalised - obviously knew her own mind and knew what she was doing. Let her rot, the law doesn’t apply here.I'd

I'd have thought she was radicalised in the UK rather than groomed.
 
exiledclaseboy said:
Risc said:
Neath_Jack said:
Prince Andrew would love some of the posters in this thread.

15 year old girl, knew what she was doing.

No case to answer your honour.

Oh dear

It’s a for point, isn’t it?

15 year old girl groomed and sexually abused - obviously victims and deserve the protection of the state and the full force of the law in their favour.

15 year old girl groomed and radicalised - obviously knew her own mind and knew what she was doing. Let her rot, the law doesn’t apply here.

“I’m not the same silly little 15-year-old schoolgirl who ran away from Bethnal Green four years ago,” she told me. “And I don’t regret coming here.”

She was well aware at the time, she was well aware afterwards aswell when she wasn’t fazed by behadings of the “enemies of islam”.
 
Flashberryjack said:
exiledclaseboy said:
Risc said:

It’s a for point, isn’t it?

15 year old girl groomed and sexually abused - obviously victims and deserve the protection of the state and the full force of the law in their favour.

15 year old girl groomed and radicalised - obviously knew her own mind and knew what she was doing. Let her rot, the law doesn’t apply here.I'd

I'd have thought she was radicalised in the UK rather than groomed.

I’d have thought it was both.
 

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