Tariffs

[Pegojack]

It’s usually Berlin for Europe.

Some of your trust holdings might well have a finger in Tesla. Be careful what you wish for.

Happy to take a short term hit if that c*nt is suffering too.

 

[Cooperman]

Happy to take a short term hit if that c*nt is suffering too.

Have a dig into your trust fact sheets as they will tell you where the holdings are.

 

[Longlostjack]

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-sales-sliding-europe-problem-politics-2025-1

 

[Wing_Stand_Wood]

"UK could avoid US tariffs that the ‘atrocity’ EU is facing because Starmer has been ‘nice’, Trump suggests – UK politics live"

UK could avoid US tariffs that the ‘atrocity’ EU is facing because Starmer has been ‘nice’, Trump suggests – UK politics live

Keir Starmer to attend European Council meeting in wake of US president’s tariff warfare threats

www.theguardian.com

 

[rockinj]

You can’t avoid this as there are global supply chains and Trump is not being nice to UK he’s simply playing us. My fear is that we come crawling for a trade deal that will be “America First.”

We are in such a bad place as a Country. We are cut adrift from our nearest neighbour, we have bet the house on a deal with a Country becoming ever more protectionist and we’ve also bet on China.

In essence we’re fucked ladies and gents.

 

[monmouth]

You can’t avoid this as there are global supply chains and Trump is not being nice to UK he’s simply playing us. My fear is that we come crawling for a trade deal that will be “America First.”

We are in such a bad place as a Country. We are cut adrift from our nearest neighbour, we have bet the house on a deal with a Country becoming ever more protectionist and we’ve also bet on China.

In essence we’re fucked ladies and gents.

Yeah, years of stupid economic policies and austerity, allied to determined systematic transfer of wealth from public to private, and to the richest, hobbled us. Brexshit mortally wounded us, then Trump and Covid put the boot in. We won't recover for a generation, if we get a chance to recover at all.

 

[Wing_Stand_Wood]

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[rockinj]

Yeah, years of stupid economic policies and austerity, allied to determined systematic transfer of wealth from public to private, and to the richest, hobbled us. Brexshit mortally wounded us, then Trump and Covid put the boot in. We won't recover for a generation, if we get a chance to recover at all.

I don’t think we can recover unless we do manage to reinvigorate through modernity with AI, green tech etc.

High Tech Manufacturing is something UK does excel in but that requires a huge emphasis on STEM and targeted investments.

A form of Silicon Valley which Reeves has mentioned makes sense to me but being in a single market and customs union would help in terms of labour shortages and intellectual property sharing etc.

I’d love to see some radicalism, pivoting more spending on people being able to retrain in later years. The Uni sector moving towards emphasising stem and reducing courses. The NHS being refocused with capital raised beyond taxation.

Bottom line is we carry on same path we are going to be a second rate European player. We have strengths that can be tapped into but it’s going to take some balls.

 

[monmouth]

I've been very disappointed in the orthodoxy and 'same old' feel of the new government, even allowing for the inherent reporting bias of the media. I'm not sure what I wanted or expected, but they might as well 'go for it' as I doubt they'll get another term from incremental or timidity, and right wing populism will continue to take root, fuelled by blame, grifters and non-dom vested interests.
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Quite why they keep ruling out any move towards single market and customs union I don't know. Or at least trying to get some version of it. There's 4% growth per annum chucked away by Brexit self harm right there. Someone needs to call out Brexit for what it was, and is (the prevailing wind is there now), and make a case for the benefits of immigration as well as the drawbacks (any 'growth' at all has been driven by it since the banking crash at least). Of course there needs to be some control and targeting, but our demographics mean that even if we were to "stop" immigration totally, as some morons shout for, we would be even more royally screwed. We're full...yeah, full of shit like Farage.

I suppose again, the biased media would drown out any sensible debate, so continued decline and faragist type fuckwittery is all I can really envisage. It's dispiriting.

 

[rockinj]

I've been very disappointed in the orthodoxy and 'same old' feel of the new government, even allowing for the inherent reporting bias of the media. I'm not sure what I wanted or expected, but they might as well 'go for it' as I doubt they'll get another term from incremental or timidity, and right wing populism will continue to take root, fuelled by blame, grifters and non-dom vested interests.
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Quite why they keep ruling out any move towards single market and customs union I don't know. Or at least trying to get some version of it. There's 4% growth per annum chucked away by Brexit self harm right there. Someone needs to call out Brexit for what it was, and is (the prevailing wind is there now), and make a case for the benefits of immigration as well as the drawbacks (any 'growth' at all has been driven by it since the banking crash at least). Of course there needs to be some control and targeting, but our demographics mean that even if we were to "stop" immigration totally, as some morons shout for, we would be even more royally screwed. We're full...yeah, full of shit like Farage.

I suppose again, the biased media would drown out any sensible debate, so continued decline and faragist type fuckwittery is all I can really envisage. It's dispiriting.

I know exactly what you mean it feels like we’re just managing decline and accepting that fate.

I have sympathy with why they’re so timid and a lot of it chimes with what you’re saying but at some point there needs to be a “moment” a stare the public in the eye speech that says we’re on the wrong course.

That will mean weeks of right wing media hysteria but I’m 110% sure that it would be rewarded.

I would not be at all surprised if the right of tories just reform. The left of tories form a new grouping and are faster off the blocks in advocating single market and customs union.

The tories love power. If they think that’ll get them power they’ll pivot and their backers in press will overnight shift. Starmer had to be very careful.