The difference a manager can make.

[Smurph]

More cutting edge debate there from the mass debater.

 

[SwanseaBoy123]

Other than the two Cooper seasons we've finished 10th, 15th, 10th, 14th and 11th since we were relegated, and we're now 17th this season. The idea that no player from the teams currently in 4th & 6th would get into our team is absoluately laughable.

How does a squad from 3 years ago have anything to do with today?

Preston were 90minutes away from relegation last season and Charlton weren't even in the same division than us.
I really dont think its outrageous to say our squad is better then theirs.

If you're genuinely happy to be sat comfortably below 2 teams who we're both 90minutes away from being a division below us this season then you really need pick your expectations up and stop settling for a manager which could have this team 20th place by Saturday evening.

 

[JackSomething]

Why don’t you treat yourself to a pair of those dodgy trainers and jog on …bit of luck you’ll twist your ankle.

Surely that would give him more free time to be sat at a device posting on here?

 

[Bob]

Don’t care who the manager is as long as we don’t play 5 at the back.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Re the OP.

It is difficult to agree with the premise that the ‘fault’ of our season so far lies with Sheehan rather than the players given the second half of last season saw the same manager with different players achieve close to play off form (may have been play off form - I can’t remember).

Either last season’s players (second half only) were better than this lot. Or Sheehan has regressed. Or last year he was lucky. Or the players last year although not better suited him more.

To claim that the players this year are miles better than results if only for a change in manager is speculation at best.

For what it’s worth, I think we have fairly average players with a fairly average manager. A few results will go our way and a few will not and we’ll be mid table. Whether lower or higher mid table will depend on a bit of luck unless something changes.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Don't think a single Charlton or Preston player gets into our team and they are 4th and 6th.

Even if you think we are a mid table team (I disagree) we are not even performing to a mediocre level under this manager. We are the worst offensive team in the league and defensively we are lower mid table. 2 wins in 10, we don't win home games, we don't score goals, we don't score set pieces and we concede soft goals.

That's all the ingredients of a relegation team to me. We are going only one direction under this manager and it is a relegation battle.

Albeit I disagree with your assessment of the strength of our players (that player Small looked very good to me for example even without his goal), it actually doesn’t much matter since by definition they have, at the moment at least, better teams.

 

[Copamundial]

I can’t believe some of the stuff I’m reading.

Vig international
Burgess international
Cabango international
Stamenic international
Eom international
Galbraith international
Idah intetnational
Cullen international
Vipotnik international
Benson international

Inoussa u21 international
Widell u21 international

Yep we’ve really got a lot of very average players that’s for sure.

 

[Smurph]

I can’t believe some of the stuff I’m reading.

Vig international
Burgess international
Cabango international
Stamenic international
Eom international
Galbraith international
Idah intetnational
Cullen international
Vipotnik international
Benson international

Inoussa u21 international
Widell u21 international

Yep we’ve really got a lot of very average players that’s for sure.

With the possible exception of South Korea the other countries aren't blessed with many options.

 

[tardylum]

Cooper international
Delcroix international
Nathan Tjoe-A-On international
Christie international
Allen international
Pedersen international
McLaughlin international

Fulton u21 international
Abdulai u21 international
Thomas u21 international
Lloyd u21 International