There is no money. We're in a mess.

[Nocountryforoldjack]

I mean, Obafemi and Piroe are arguably the best strikers in the championship, and Paterson was one of the best attacking mids/wingers too

But possession football only works if you limit chances to concede, we've conceded 10 goals in 6 games

We're a championship club refusing to make loan signings when we have no money because we want to have 'sellable assests'

From the owners point of view fuck the results just develop players to sell for profit but they both go hand in hand surely.

 

[J_B]

I mean, Obafemi and Piroe are arguably the best strikers in the championship, and Paterson was one of the best attacking mids/wingers too

But possession football only works if you limit chances to concede, we've conceded 10 goals in 6 games

We're a championship club refusing to make loan signings when we have no money because we want to have 'sellable assests'

We're missing Paterson's creativity very badly. We get nothing from the wing backs except hopeful crosses towards the shortest number 9 in the division. Ntcham was marked out of the game and we created nothing. Did Luton's goalkeeper make a save? We play our football in front of organised teams who laugh at us and wait for our inevitable mistakes.

 

[JackBaston]

I mean, Obafemi and Piroe are arguably the best strikers in the championship, and Paterson was one of the best attacking mids/wingers too

But possession football only works if you limit chances to concede, we've conceded 10 goals in 6 games

We're a championship club refusing to make loan signings when we have no money because we want to have 'sellable assests'

From the owners point of view f**k the results just develop players to sell for profit but they both go hand in hand surely.

Exactly, and we used to look at signings in smaller spanish leagues or other leagues as they're brought up with our style of play and were cheaper with less competition for their signature
Scotland, Bodde, Orlandi, Rangel, Pintado, De Vries

Its alright to buy a few from league 1 like Downes and Darling but we never bought and sold straight away, we only sold when it made sense to us, we lost loads keeping hold of Bodde and we immediately regretted selling Britton, thankfully he came back albeit on loan

 

[monmouth]

:shock:

From the owners point of view f**k the results just develop players to sell for profit but they both go hand in hand surely.

Exactly, and we used to look at signings in smaller spanish leagues or other leagues as they're brought up with our style of play and were cheaper with less competition for their signature
Scotland, Bodde, Orlandi, Rangel, Pintado, De Vries

Its alright to buy a few from league 1 like Downes and Darling but we never bought and sold straight away, we only sold when it made sense to us, we lost loads keeping hold of Bodde and we immediately regretted selling Britton, thankfully he came back albeit on loan

Hasn’t brexshit outlawed that approach?

 

[Manselton Jack]

:shock:

Exactly, and we used to look at signings in smaller spanish leagues or other leagues as they're brought up with our style of play and were cheaper with less competition for their signature
Scotland, Bodde, Orlandi, Rangel, Pintado, De Vries

Its alright to buy a few from league 1 like Downes and Darling but we never bought and sold straight away, we only sold when it made sense to us, we lost loads keeping hold of Bodde and we immediately regretted selling Britton, thankfully he came back albeit on loan

Hasn’t brexshit outlawed that approach?

We definitely couldn't sign another Rangel post Brexit

 

[JackBaston]

:shock:

Exactly, and we used to look at signings in smaller spanish leagues or other leagues as they're brought up with our style of play and were cheaper with less competition for their signature
Scotland, Bodde, Orlandi, Rangel, Pintado, De Vries

Its alright to buy a few from league 1 like Downes and Darling but we never bought and sold straight away, we only sold when it made sense to us, we lost loads keeping hold of Bodde and we immediately regretted selling Britton, thankfully he came back albeit on loan

Hasn’t brexshit outlawed that approach?

True
We could still be signing players from Scotland though like we did with Scotland, Dobbie and De Vries
It can't be the biggest issue if we signed Piroe from Holland also

 

[Magic_Michu]

Luton have a far far smaller budget than us… Rusty needs to get over it.

Pick a formation and system that suits what he’s got.

 

[Swanjaxs]

Luton have a far far smaller budget than us… Rusty needs to get over it.

Pick a formation and system that suits what he’s got.

He's still trying to get his keeper to play as a fullback from goal kicks :lol:

He's trying to reinvent the football weel from inside his brainbox

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

Luton have a far far smaller budget than us… Rusty needs to get over it.

Pick a formation and system that suits what he’s got.

Unfortunately and scarily, the formation we are currently playing is probably best suited to what we have.

I'd love to go back to the halcyon days of the 451. But we have not a single winger in the squad. Besides the wingers I think it work very well.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

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I’m glad we are not going to continue living beyond our means.

The reality is that Martin has a pool of decent championship players, some ok, some below par, some well above par and he needs to grow up, stop whinging about every single thing and start managing his resources properly. I have no doubt that Guidolin for example could make what we have a very competitive outfit. The main problem lies with Martin.

The problem is, I think we still are. They're just at the end of their credit line.

Bang on about the squad though.

I worded it badly. I meant extending the amount by which we were living beyond our means.

The number of people that seem to think we have no debt etc is astonishing.

Martin has been given a lot of money. More than he should have. And we have players on tens of thousands a week between them bombed out. And the assets we wanted to realise, we made it so obvious that it was always going to end up with an undercooked offer close to the deadline and the players themselves not giving a toss hence reducing their fee with their abject performances.

They never seem to learn.

The problem we have is Martin. I honestly think we can put a very competitive team together (more so than we could have done a season or so ago as Ayew was draining everything away). We play a stupid formation and style for the players we have or can possibly get.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Luton have a far far smaller budget than us… Rusty needs to get over it.

Pick a formation and system that suits what he’s got.

Unfortunately and scarily, the formation we are currently playing is probably best suited to what we have.

I'd love to go back to the halcyon days of the 451. But we have not a single winger in the squad. Besides the wingers I think it work very well.

No it’s not. It’s a stupid formation for what we have.

 

[A4Jack]

Whilst I don't think this squad is as strong as Nottingham Forest, it has all the hallmarks of Chris Hughton. Capable squad - at least far more than the recent media reports suggest - but a manager who hasn't the slightest clue how to get the best out of it.

Is there any team with a better strike force? I can't think of many teams who I would happily swap our centre halves for on paper. And with Allen in Grimes at least looks more competent.

We are not a bottom half team but Martin has been allowed to dampen expectations to his own reality to get us to where we are now.

 

[Cinio Dydd Sul]

Unfortunately and scarily, the formation we are currently playing is probably best suited to what we have.

I'd love to go back to the halcyon days of the 451. But we have not a single winger in the squad. Besides the wingers I think it work very well.

No it’s not. It’s a stupid formation for what we have.

Well it's not, we don't have wingers so he plays a system with no wingers. We do have centre backs though so we play 3 of them. Our only fit creative player is Piroe so we play him in a deeper position than playing him up top instead of going with 2 out and out up front. So the formation is entirely logical for what we have. Tweaking it slightly will do nothing, we'd still be too narrow, slow and stuffy.

The stupidity was letting the squad get into the position with so few options meaning we can't play anything else and that's an all round shortcoming at the club - owners, recruitment, Martin.

I can buy that the tactics are a problem though. This formation without the constant obsession with meaningless passes and more movement, being mote direct, having more freedom could be a lot better.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

No it’s not. It’s a stupid formation for what we have.

Well it's not, we don't have wingers so he plays a system with no wingers. We do have centre backs though so we play 3 of them. Our only fit creative player is Piroe so we play him in a deeper position than playing him up top instead of going with 2 out and out up front. So the formation is entirely logical for what we have. Tweaking it slightly will do nothing, we'd still be too narrow, slow and stuffy.

The stupidity was letting the squad get into the position with so few options meaning we can't play anything else and that's an all round shortcoming at the club - owners, recruitment, Martin.

I can buy that the tactics are a problem though. This formation without the constant obsession with meaningless passes and more movement, being mote direct, having more freedom could be a lot better.

There’s more than one way to play without wingers.

 

[J_B]

No it’s not. It’s a stupid formation for what we have.

Well it's not, we don't have wingers so he plays a system with no wingers. We do have centre backs though so we play 3 of them. Our only fit creative player is Piroe so we play him in a deeper position than playing him up top instead of going with 2 out and out up front. So the formation is entirely logical for what we have. Tweaking it slightly will do nothing, we'd still be too narrow, slow and stuffy.

The stupidity was letting the squad get into the position with so few options meaning we can't play anything else and that's an all round shortcoming at the club - owners, recruitment, Martin.

I can buy that the tactics are a problem though. This formation without the constant obsession with meaningless passes and more movement, being mote direct, having more freedom could be a lot better.

Ntcham is a creative player and just occasionally he shows it.