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waynekerr55

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any update? We know the delays were due to unfortunate circumstances but now must be the time to act
 
What, like halfway through a game that we are losing?
 
waynekerr55 said:
any update? We know the delays were due to unfortunate circumstances but now must be the time to act

The wheels of the legal profession turn slowly. The wheels of the legal profession when you need to engage with a different person to lead it turn slower. The wheels of a legal profession when you have five key witnesses, based all over the world, each with demanding jobs turn even slower again. And, then finally, throw in a global pandemic, lockdown and people adjusting to new ways of working and things slow down even more.

The witness statements being prepared are the slowdown now. At the AGM we believed we were probably there but the lawyers have done a good (but frustrating job) of looking through these and stress testing them and asking for more information. Finding emails from 6 years ago is a challenge at the best of times, finding specific ones is more challenging. This is one of the reasons why people involved in this legal case are standing down from the board - this alone drains your time more heavily than any of us imagined, doing normal Trust activities alongside that becomes almost impossible. Of those standing down I think most (if not all) will still play a decent sized chunk of involvement but behind the scenes.

This is progressing as it was at the time of the last update (which I would need to check back on as to when that was) it was about witness statements and to an extent it still is but I now believe all are finished, stress tested and we move onto the next stage.

Of course as of Saturday morning we have a new board, the board will need a new Chair and for most of the board they can focus on the day to day trust running which should be communications and the like. You have one new face, one re-elected face and one person returning after standing down 12 months back. The board will elect the new Chair and hopefully from here there is more time to devote to "front of house" activities (i.e. the stuff you see/hear) and not get caught up in hours behind the scenes (which others will continue to do)

I wish it was as simple as you see on the TV, someone presses a legal button and the back street lawyer in Coronation Street has it in a courtroom by two weeks Monday, completed by the second episode Friday evening. :mrgreen:
 
PSumbler said:
waynekerr55 said:
any update? We know the delays were due to unfortunate circumstances but now must be the time to act

The wheels of the legal profession turn slowly. The wheels of the legal profession when you need to engage with a different person to lead it turn slower. The wheels of a legal profession when you have five key witnesses, based all over the world, each with demanding jobs turn even slower again. And, then finally, throw in a global pandemic, lockdown and people adjusting to new ways of working and things slow down even more.

The witness statements being prepared are the slowdown now. At the AGM we believed we were probably there but the lawyers have done a good (but frustrating job) of looking through these and stress testing them and asking for more information. Finding emails from 6 years ago is a challenge at the best of times, finding specific ones is more challenging. This is one of the reasons why people involved in this legal case are standing down from the board - this alone drains your time more heavily than any of us imagined, doing normal Trust activities alongside that becomes almost impossible. Of those standing down I think most (if not all) will still play a decent sized chunk of involvement but behind the scenes.

This is progressing as it was at the time of the last update (which I would need to check back on as to when that was) it was about witness statements and to an extent it still is but I now believe all are finished, stress tested and we move onto the next stage.

Of course as of Saturday morning we have a new board, the board will need a new Chair and for most of the board they can focus on the day to day trust running which should be communications and the like. You have one new face, one re-elected face and one person returning after standing down 12 months back. The board will elect the new Chair and hopefully from here there is more time to devote to "front of house" activities (i.e. the stuff you see/hear) and not get caught up in hours behind the scenes (which others will continue to do)

I wish it was as simple as you see on the TV, someone presses a legal button and the back street lawyer in Coronation Street has it in a courtroom by two weeks Monday, completed by the second episode Friday evening. :mrgreen:

Thanks Phil, you know I've been a vocal supporter of action and know that the legal wheels turn slowly.

I also note that there's someone on the old site recycling Jenkins' Mrs account that you knew about the sale
 
waynekerr55 said:
PSumbler said:
The wheels of the legal profession turn slowly. The wheels of the legal profession when you need to engage with a different person to lead it turn slower. The wheels of a legal profession when you have five key witnesses, based all over the world, each with demanding jobs turn even slower again. And, then finally, throw in a global pandemic, lockdown and people adjusting to new ways of working and things slow down even more.

The witness statements being prepared are the slowdown now. At the AGM we believed we were probably there but the lawyers have done a good (but frustrating job) of looking through these and stress testing them and asking for more information. Finding emails from 6 years ago is a challenge at the best of times, finding specific ones is more challenging. This is one of the reasons why people involved in this legal case are standing down from the board - this alone drains your time more heavily than any of us imagined, doing normal Trust activities alongside that becomes almost impossible. Of those standing down I think most (if not all) will still play a decent sized chunk of involvement but behind the scenes.

This is progressing as it was at the time of the last update (which I would need to check back on as to when that was) it was about witness statements and to an extent it still is but I now believe all are finished, stress tested and we move onto the next stage.

Of course as of Saturday morning we have a new board, the board will need a new Chair and for most of the board they can focus on the day to day trust running which should be communications and the like. You have one new face, one re-elected face and one person returning after standing down 12 months back. The board will elect the new Chair and hopefully from here there is more time to devote to "front of house" activities (i.e. the stuff you see/hear) and not get caught up in hours behind the scenes (which others will continue to do)

I wish it was as simple as you see on the TV, someone presses a legal button and the back street lawyer in Coronation Street has it in a courtroom by two weeks Monday, completed by the second episode Friday evening. :mrgreen:


Thanks Phil, you know I've been a vocal supporter of action and know that the legal wheels turn slowly.

I also note that there's someone on the old site recycling Jenkins' Mrs account that you knew about the sale

Aye I have heard (and seen)

But it also seems to just fly in the face that it has been said by Jenkins, Levien and Kaplan that we (I) clearly didn't.

The dates are publicly available as to when the first notifications were made. I have heard as well that all of a sudden it is about meetings with the Americans at Morgans. Which will be the ones made on the morning of the CHelsea game, the ones that have been talked about many many times. Those ones.

People just like to make stuff up.
 
PSumbler said:
waynekerr55 said:
Thanks Phil, you know I've been a vocal supporter of action and know that the legal wheels turn slowly.

I also note that there's someone on the old site recycling Jenkins' Mrs account that you knew about the sale

Aye I have heard (and seen)

But it also seems to just fly in the face that it has been said by Jenkins, Levien and Kaplan that we (I) clearly didn't.

The dates are publicly available as to when the first notifications were made. I have heard as well that all of a sudden it is about meetings with the Americans at Morgans. Which will be the ones made on the morning of the CHelsea game, the ones that have been talked about many many times. Those ones.

People just like to make stuff up.

Any special offers on cheesecake now that we have lost?
 
waynekerr55 said:
PSumbler said:
Aye I have heard (and seen)

But it also seems to just fly in the face that it has been said by Jenkins, Levien and Kaplan that we (I) clearly didn't.

The dates are publicly available as to when the first notifications were made. I have heard as well that all of a sudden it is about meetings with the Americans at Morgans. Which will be the ones made on the morning of the CHelsea game, the ones that have been talked about many many times. Those ones.

People just like to make stuff up.

Any special offers on cheesecake now that we have lost?

There's a gower brewery bus that seems to have taken up residence in Margam Park
 
waynekerr55 said:
Cooperman said:
Ahh, the old clock is an hour out chestnut.

I literally posted it after the end of the game. Genuinely not taking the mick either Coops

Yeah I think the server clock is an hour out.
 
Cooperman said:
waynekerr55 said:
I literally posted it after the end of the game. Genuinely not taking the mick either Coops

Yeah I think the server clock is an hour out.

Bottom right corner of the page on mine says 'all times are UTC +1.00 which is BST i think.
Your post says 12:14 here & I viewed it at 12:16
 
Resolvenjack said:
Cooperman said:
Yeah I think the server clock is an hour out.

Bottom right corner of the page on mine says 'all times are UTC +1.00 which is BST i think.
Your post says 12:14 here & I viewed it at 12:16

Whereas I got 'all times are UTC' and a posting time of 11:14
 
Cooperman said:
Resolvenjack said:
Bottom right corner of the page on mine says 'all times are UTC +1.00 which is BST i think.
Your post says 12:14 here & I viewed it at 12:16

Whereas I got 'all times are UTC' and a posting time of 11:14

Best you go to User control panel, board preferences & edit timezone to UTC+1, not forgetting to 'save changes' :)
 

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