Wales Women

[Neath_Jack]

JF is a baller and the only true elite player in the team.

Sadly she's coming to the tail end of her career, but it would be incredible if she carried Wales over the line.

Make no mistake, if Wales beat Swiss away then it will rank as one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Women's international game.

Genuine question, why hasn’t she ever played for one of the big English sides if she is an elite player? Just looked her up on wiki and she’s been with an American side since 2013, and has been sent out on loan to 6 different sides.

 

[JackFish]

Lovely goal that, was listening on the radio and they also couldn't believe the amount of offside goals!

The qualifying system makes the nations league look simple! So if they win on Tuesday they might qualify automatically, but the "worst" of the three winners have to go into another playoff in Australia in February.

 

[monmouth]

JF is a baller and the only true elite player in the team.

Sadly she's coming to the tail end of her career, but it would be incredible if she carried Wales over the line.

Make no mistake, if Wales beat Swiss away then it will rank as one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Women's international game.

Genuine question, why hasn’t she ever played for one of the big English sides if she is an elite player? Just looked her up on wiki and she’s been with an American side since 2013, and has been sent out on loan to 6 different sides.

Aren't American sides better and historically better paid? Don't know, but because the American Team is the best and none of their players are in UK? It's (relatively) big out there, and England is playing catch up and only recently booming.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Genuine question, why hasn’t she ever played for one of the big English sides if she is an elite player? Just looked her up on wiki and she’s been with an American side since 2013, and has been sent out on loan to 6 different sides.

Aren't American sides better and historically better paid? Don't know, but because the American Team is the best and none of their players are in UK? It's (relatively) big out there, and England is playing catch up and only recently booming.

No idea Mon, but I would have thought playing in FA cups, Champions League etc would be a bigger draw than the yank league anyway. Unless as you say, the financials are too good to turn down.

 

[FelindreJack]

JF is a baller and the only true elite player in the team.

Sadly she's coming to the tail end of her career, but it would be incredible if she carried Wales over the line.

Make no mistake, if Wales beat Swiss away then it will rank as one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Women's international game.

Genuine question, why hasn’t she ever played for one of the big English sides if she is an elite player? Just looked her up on wiki and she’s been with an American side since 2013, and has been sent out on loan to 6 different sides.

As someone who has little to no knowledge of the women’s game, I would have assumed that the American sides are pretty decent compared to a lot of European teams, financially at least. She has won 2 champions leagues as well tbf to her.

 

[JustJack]

JF is a baller and the only true elite player in the team.

Sadly she's coming to the tail end of her career, but it would be incredible if she carried Wales over the line.

Make no mistake, if Wales beat Swiss away then it will rank as one of the biggest upsets in the history of the Women's international game.

Genuine question, why hasn’t she ever played for one of the big English sides if she is an elite player? Just looked her up on wiki and she’s been with an American side since 2013, and has been sent out on loan to 6 different sides.

For most of the time in Jess' career playing in the US was the pinnacle and one of the few places women could play professionally (France, Sweden being others).

Also for a long time the calendars were (and still are) not aligned and so players that finished up the US for the season then went on loan to teams in Europe or even Australia/Germany to keep playing.

This has been the case for players like Sam Kerr at Chelsea and even Alex Morgan last season at Spurs, where they joined the Super League for a short period of time.

 

[magicdaps]

Genuine question, why hasn’t she ever played for one of the big English sides if she is an elite player? Just looked her up on wiki and she’s been with an American side since 2013, and has been sent out on loan to 6 different sides.

When Jess moved to the US, the US was the highest paying and biggest league in the world in women's football. It's only recently that England has started to take over in terms of finances etc, and the US league is probably still the second-best league in the world in the women's game. She's won it three times, made the Team of the Season 5 times and won the Player of the Year there at the age of 35.

Her six loan spells have been to some of the top clubs in the world, when the US league has been off-season. In her loan spells she's won the Champions League twice, including with Lyon who were the best side in the world and a stronger and bigger side in women's football than City, Arsenal or Chelsea.

She has still had success in England, in her year with Bristol she was in the WSL Team of the Season, and she got to the Womens Fa Cup Final, but she's only spent a couple of years in the English top-flight as the balance of power in Womens football is significantly different to the men's game - particularly when she was coming through.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Thanks all, learn something new everyday.

 

[PSumbler]

Genuine question, why hasn’t she ever played for one of the big English sides if she is an elite player? Just looked her up on wiki and she’s been with an American side since 2013, and has been sent out on loan to 6 different sides.

When Jess moved to the US, the US was the highest paying and biggest league in the world in women's football. It's only recently that England has started to take over in terms of finances etc, and the US league is probably still the second-best league in the world in the women's game. She's won it three times, made the Team of the Season 5 times and won the Player of the Year there at the age of 35.

Her six loan spells have been to some of the top clubs in the world, when the US league has been off-season. In her loan spells she's won the Champions League twice, including with Lyon who were the best side in the world and a stronger and bigger side in women's football than City, Arsenal or Chelsea.

She has still had success in England, in her year with Bristol she was in the WSL Team of the Season, and she got to the Womens Fa Cup Final, but she's only spent a couple of years in the English top-flight as the balance of power in Womens football is significantly different to the men's game - particularly when she was coming through.

Its a real shame that the Swans Ladies team cannot compete in the English structure - beneficial to the club and also their own development

 

[JustJack]

When Jess moved to the US, the US was the highest paying and biggest league in the world in women's football. It's only recently that England has started to take over in terms of finances etc, and the US league is probably still the second-best league in the world in the women's game. She's won it three times, made the Team of the Season 5 times and won the Player of the Year there at the age of 35.

Her six loan spells have been to some of the top clubs in the world, when the US league has been off-season. In her loan spells she's won the Champions League twice, including with Lyon who were the best side in the world and a stronger and bigger side in women's football than City, Arsenal or Chelsea.

She has still had success in England, in her year with Bristol she was in the WSL Team of the Season, and she got to the Womens Fa Cup Final, but she's only spent a couple of years in the English top-flight as the balance of power in Womens football is significantly different to the men's game - particularly when she was coming through.

Its a real shame that the Swans Ladies team cannot compete in the English structure - beneficial to the club and also their own development

It just doesn't work out as a profitable venture (at this moment in time). They would likely have to enter at Tier 3/4, where in terms of the level it wouldn't be far off where they are now, but with the addition of extra travel across the country. Its not going to work for us with an amateur squad.

It would need someone to throw a sizeable investment at it and not be afraid to lose money for a good few years.

In addition they are very passionate about staying within the Welsh domestic game

 

[PSumbler]

Its a real shame that the Swans Ladies team cannot compete in the English structure - beneficial to the club and also their own development

It just doesn't work out as a profitable venture (at this moment in time). They would likely have to enter at Tier 3/4, where in terms of the level it wouldn't be far off where they are now, but with the addition of extra travel across the country. Its not going to work for us with an amateur squad.

It would need someone to throw a sizeable investment at it and not be afraid to lose money for a good few years.

In addition they are very passionate about staying within the Welsh domestic game

Its interesting - when you say "they" is that the club or the players? Id have (rightly or wrongly) assumed that the players wanted to test themselves at the highest level - I get the bit about the tier of entry but wouldnt that be more of a challenge for the players?

Although I see huge points in developing the game in Wales as well

 

[JustJack]

It just doesn't work out as a profitable venture (at this moment in time). They would likely have to enter at Tier 3/4, where in terms of the level it wouldn't be far off where they are now, but with the addition of extra travel across the country. Its not going to work for us with an amateur squad.

It would need someone to throw a sizeable investment at it and not be afraid to lose money for a good few years.

In addition they are very passionate about staying within the Welsh domestic game

Its interesting - when you say "they" is that the club or the players? Id have (rightly or wrongly) assumed that the players wanted to test themselves at the highest level - I get the bit about the tier of entry but wouldnt that be more of a challenge for the players?

Although I see huge points in developing the game in Wales as well

Of course the players would but they couldnt do it without a fair salary.

Its the same debate that many of the welsh mens non league teams have had, whether to stick to the grind of the english pyramid or gamble on entering the Welsh ladder and potentially get into the champions league.

I can't imagine there are too many riches in the Women's champions league (yet) mind.

 

[PSumbler]

https://www.swanseacity.com/news/report-swansea-city-ladies-16-coedffranc-women-0

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

https://www.swanseacity.com/news/report-swansea-city-ladies-16-coedffranc-women-0

16-0 lol was it a rugby game that day

 

[Skippyjack]

Come on Cymru, BBC2 Wales if anyone is interested.. just kicked off