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Charlie Kirk

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I’ve watched it, several times. How it makes someone else feel means nothing to me. We are all different, we all feel emotions differently. Whether I watched it once or a thousand times won’t make any difference to you or anyone else on this thread.
You are 100% correct Neath, each to their own. I also don't understand why people would want to watch a horror film or Mrs Brown's Boys.
 
First of all, no one deserves to be executed for their political beliefs. That needs to be said loud and clear. That guy has a family whose lives have been turned upside down. I think of them right now.

However, there is a wider question here, and it is one that the Right (and it is the Right) must confront themselves with.

And that is, when governments keep shifting the Overton Window to the Right (as has happened gradually across Western society in the past 45 years, particularly here and in the US), when Right-leaning billionaires buy up newspapers and TV channels and apply Right-leaning editorial policies, when Right-leaning governments try to shut down certain types of protest whilst allowing others free rein (contrast the treatment of Palestine Action vs, for example, farmers, who were allowed to bring central London to a standstill last year), when Right-leaning governments spew hate into the atmosphere like they do with the language around immigration, when you do all of this, when you attempt to have two different sets of goalposts (one for the Left, one for the Right), then don't be surprised if that gives rise to nutjobs who are going to find a different and violent way to make their voices heard.

To be clear once more - I am not trying to legitimise or excuse extremism/terrorism, I am simply saying that you shouldn't be surprised to be on the receiving end if you are directly contributing to the conditions that give rise to it happening.
 
First of all, no one deserves to be executed for their political beliefs. That needs to be said loud and clear. That guy has a family whose lives have been turned upside down. I think of them right now.

However, there is a wider question here, and it is one that the Right (and it is the Right) must confront themselves with.

And that is, when governments keep shifting the Overton Window to the Right (as has happened gradually across Western society in the past 45 years, particularly here and in the US), when Right-leaning billionaires buy up newspapers and TV channels and apply Right-leaning editorial policies, when Right-leaning governments try to shut down certain types of protest whilst allowing others free rein (contrast the treatment of Palestine Action vs, for example, farmers, who were allowed to bring central London to a standstill last year), when Right-leaning governments spew hate into the atmosphere like they do with the language around immigration, when you do all of this, when you attempt to have two different sets of goalposts (one for the Left, one for the Right), then don't be surprised if that gives rise to nutjobs who are going to find a different and violent way to make their voices heard.

To be clear once more - I am not trying to legitimise or excuse extremism/terrorism, I am simply saying that you shouldn't be surprised to be on the receiving end if you are directly contributing to the conditions that give rise to it happening.

Agree. One of the biggest problems for me is the dehumanizing aspect of all this bullsh*t dumb discourse we have to listen to (unless you live in a cave somewhere). The 'left' is also prone to this in this timeline, but I do think the 'right' is worse. There's no room for nuance or complexity, it's just reducing problems and people to offensive caricatures that it's easy to call to be removed/eliminated/mocked/bullied as they're not real people, they're just these 'things'. Charlie Kirk was at the forefront of this kind of crap and I'm glad he won't be around anymore, but I'd rather he not be around because people realize he's a c*nt that we shouldn't care about than someone just killing him in front of his kids because they also see people as just cartoon things that can be wiped out so cheaply.
 
Measured post but comparing the farmers protest with the ongoing Palestine protests in London is misaligned. I was in London during one of the May Palastine protests with 500K people there gridlocking the trains and road network . I saw Hamas support and anti-British chanting which was tolerated by the Police.

I'm not right wing or a farmer or anti legal immigration. However I think globalisation is inevitable and we will ultimately all be living under one system of sorts whatever part of the political spectrum that is. Sadly !
 
It's called freedom of speech Epaul and you are more than entitled to your views 👏. Unfortunately the person who has been murdered no longer has a voice. Nobody expects or is asking you to grieve. I question the type of person you are when you feel the need to come on a football forum and post that, when his body is possibly not even cold yet 😞
With freedom of speech comes great responsibility.
 
The way Twitter works these days you have very little control over what’s shown on your feed and videos auto play as you scroll. That’s how I saw this one. I didn’t go seeking it and certainly didn’t click on it. As I said up thread, I was only vaguely aware of this bloke’s existence 12 hours ago.
You can stop auto play videos within your settings on Twitter.
 

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