Alan Sheehan.

[Swans Jack]

I have to say that if things stay the same for the next 10 games that will be it for him.

I think we will have to go on a poor run of results for him to go.

 

[Deleted member 1454]

He's managed to suck all the optimism and enthusiasm with the new owners and better players in just 10 games. He's a shithouse of a manager, always afraid of what the opposition are going to do instead of trying to set his team up to win a game. If he thinks that type of performance today is going to win back supporters He's very much mistaken. We have barely strung 3 or 4 halfs of top quality attacking football in 10 games. Today was the last straw for me, be glad to see the back of him.

It's hard to argue with the assessment that he's a pragmatic manager, and it's certainly not a good watch a lot of the time.

But we need to be careful here. I don't think these players are as good as some people are convinced they are. And do we really want to hand the reins to another Pep tribute act manager who believes defending is optional as long as it looks pretty?

It's only 2 months into the season and everyone knows the first 3 months are stop start with internationals disrupting rhythm.

We're 13th. Everyone needs to calm down a bit. Just because Snoop follows us on Twitter it doesn't guarantee anything.

 

[Frankie Burrows Cap]

I think we will have to go on a poor run of results for him to go.

I can't see him being sacked either, unless it was a horrendous run this side of Xmas. We really do need to see an improvement in performances and some wins at home in this next run of games though.

 

[Swans Jack]

It's hard to argue with the assessment that he's a pragmatic manager, and it's certainly not a good watch a lot of the time.

But we need to be careful here. I don't think these players are as good as some people are convinced they are. And do we really want to hand the reins to another Pep tribute act manager who believes defending is optional as long as it looks pretty?

It's only 2 months into the season and everyone knows the first 3 months are stop start with internationals disrupting rhythm.

We're 13th. Everyone needs to calm down a bit. Just because Snoop follows us on Twitter it doesn't guarantee anything.

You defo have calmed me down. Talking sense .

 

[CommonCents]

We have no divine right to top 6. We were a relegation threatened team under Luke Williams and also under Duff, potentially also under Russell barring a late flurry of results.

Our summer recruitment has elevated us from relegation candidates to a solid mid table team. It’s going to take multiple windows to get us competing with top 6.

Compare our squad value to the rest of the league, it’s very much middle of the pack now. Where as last season it was about 18th.

 

[Deleted member 1454]

We have no divine right to top 6. We were a relegation threatened team under Luke Williams and also under Duff, potentially also under Russell barring a late flurry of results.

Our summer recruitment has elevated us from relegation candidates to a solid mid table team. It’s going to take multiple windows to get us competing with top 6.

Compare our squad value to the rest of the league, it’s very much middle of the pack now. Where as last season it was about 18th.

One million percent correct

 

[eteb]

It's hard to argue with the assessment that he's a pragmatic manager, and it's certainly not a good watch a lot of the time.

But we need to be careful here. I don't think these players are as good as some people are convinced they are. And do we really want to hand the reins to another Pep tribute act manager who believes defending is optional as long as it looks pretty?

It's only 2 months into the season and everyone knows the first 3 months are stop start with internationals disrupting rhythm.

We're 13th. Everyone needs to calm down a bit. Just because Snoop follows us on Twitter it doesn't guarantee anything.

Judging by that today (and recently) I'm not sure Sheehan knows what defending is, let alone it being optional

 

[monmouth]

Just because Snoop follows us on Twitter it doesn't guarantee anything.

It probably does guarantee expert ‘fan’ arseholes on twatter will be all over us.

I’m just happy with a point now and hoping for better next game.

 

[cmajack]

We have no divine right to top 6. We were a relegation threatened team under Luke Williams and also under Duff, potentially also under Russell barring a late flurry of results.

Our summer recruitment has elevated us from relegation candidates to a solid mid table team. It’s going to take multiple windows to get us competing with top 6.

Compare our squad value to the rest of the league, it’s very much middle of the pack now. Where as last season it was about 18th.

These players are far far better than what this manager is getting out of them.

 

[tardylum]

These players are far far better than what this manager is getting out of them.

Are you sure about that? I think we have a lot of good players but not much attacking quality. Idah still a question mark and has not had a run but out wide and in midfield we are a bit one dimensional. Maybe a genius coach could turn Inoussa into a 15 goal a season winger but I do not see that from him yet, he seems fine and will improve a lot but he is not one of the best players in his position in the league or a proven gamechanger at this level. Maybe Benson but he does not seem quite ready to go yet and is playing fitness catch up. Who would suddenly take a leap under a different coach or is playing below the level they have proven to be at previously?

We had a good summer and our squad is better but it does feel like we need a few windows to sort things out and fix our the rest of our holes. We brought in a lot of midfielders and we could have swapped one of them for a more attacking player. Yalcouye has a very big reputation so could be the player who improves a lot as you have to remember he is still so young but I am unsure he will suddenly improve our attack as he looks more like a worker.

 

[Deleted member 1454]

These players are far far better than what this manager is getting out of them.

Are they though?

Cabango, Key, Tymon, Fulton and Cullen all date back to the Duff era (three played under Martin), all have played in sides that have mostly struggled, and they've all had several spells of poor personal form.

Then you have players like Eom, Vip and Ronald who have been hot and cold ever since coming here during the time Williams was here.

So you can reasonably say that Sheehan is not the problem with them. They have always been a bit iffy.

The new players have only been here a couple of months, it's too early to judge how good they are or not regardless of who the coach is.

Bottom line is, there's little evidence to support the statement you're making.

 

[JackFish]

I would agree that the squad as a whole is better than it was this time last year, and we definitely seem to have more depth. I’m still not convinced that the first eleven is much better though.

I’ll say the same thing I did when we were in a similar position under Martin & Williams - the football isn’t the best but if they can keep us in a mid table position in the championship then I don’t think we should be thinking about sacking them.

 

[cmajack]

Are you sure about that? I think we have a lot of good players but not much attacking quality. Idah still a question mark and has not had a run but out wide and in midfield we are a bit one dimensional. Maybe a genius coach could turn Inoussa into a 15 goal a season winger but I do not see that from him yet, he seems fine and will improve a lot but he is not one of the best players in his position in the league or a proven gamechanger at this level. Maybe Benson but he does not seem quite ready to go yet and is playing fitness catch up. Who would suddenly take a leap under a different coach or is playing below the level they have proven to be at previously?

We had a good summer and our squad is better but it does feel like we need a few windows to sort things out and fix our the rest of our holes. We brought in a lot of midfielders and we could have swapped one of them for a more attacking player. Yalcouye has a very big reputation so could be the player who improves a lot as you have to remember he is still so young but I am unsure he will suddenly improve our attack as he looks more like a worker.

Yalcouye had rave reviews coming here ( played champions league football last season) Widell was that good (he was signed in January and loaned back ) for fear of missing out. Galbraith and Stamenic are having rave reviews playing for their country, and yet if we had lost 5-0 today nobody would have had any complaints. They had 40 odd touches in our box , compared to a handful for us. It's clear nothing is being created going forward, why not try Widell or Eom at 10 , what have we got to lose. Many a good plan has come together by stumbling across it. We are now 10 games in , the football by and large has been depressing, there's no pattern going forward, no intricate 1-2 on the edge of box feeding people in , it's all dull pedestrian nonsense. We have got 2 games at home next and i think he has to win 1. Failure to win both would have us with 1 home win in 7 , a truly shocking statistic if it comes about.

 

[exiledclaseboy]

May as well get rid now while Ange is available. Next level. In so many ways

 

[PenlanJack]

May as well get rid now while Ange is available. Next level. In so many ways

F*ck knows what the quorum was doing today, Marge and O's were on the ganja In the boot room most likely, the blueprint took an ell of a battering today