Are the players giving everything?

[J_B]

It’s only a million if he delivers success.

That's probably true, but looking at the table, if he's a failure we're in huge trouble.
A massive gamble under the circumstances. All managerial appointments are a gamble but this one is bigger than any since Bradley.

 

[Cooperman]

That's probably true, but looking at the table, if he's a failure we're in huge trouble.
A massive gamble under the circumstances. All managerial appointments are a gamble but this one is bigger than any since Bradley.

Yes, a huge gamble. I’d like to see the decision making process.

 

[Londonlisa2001]

Or maybe they are afraid of the rollicking or getting dropped for not sticking to the plan....too much overcoaching and istrucruin to play by numbers in all sports removing players instincts and ability.

I wonder if today the players werent busting a gut in order to put up 2 fingers to O'Dea a coach they had no respect for?

If that was the case and players were deliberately not busting a gut the only ones they’re actually putting two fingers up to and showing no respect for are the fans. And any player that did that I want gone from the club. Don’t care who they are and if it means we play under 21s in their place.

So let’s hope that is absolutely not what happened.

 

[eteb]

If that was the case and players were deliberately not busting a gut the only ones they’re actually putting two fingers up to and showing no respect for are the fans. And any player that did that I want gone from the club. Don’t care who they are and if it means we play under 21s in their place.

So let’s hope that is absolutely not what happened.

Spot on

 

[Swans Jack]

If that was the case and players were deliberately not busting a gut the only ones they’re actually putting two fingers up to and showing no respect for are the fans. And any player that did that I want gone from the club. Don’t care who they are and if it means we play under 21s in their place.

So let’s hope that is absolutely not what happened.

I wouldn't say we didn't want the result today, more that tactically we are all over the place. Plus the players know he was on his way out and maybe they have lost all faith in the Sheehan/O Dea era tactics. It ea very much a end of Williams days feel to it. Players could see writing on the wall.

 

[Cooperman]

If that was the case and players were deliberately not busting a gut the only ones they’re actually putting two fingers up to and showing no respect for are the fans. And any player that did that I want gone from the club. Don’t care who they are and if it means we play under 21s in their place.

So let’s hope that is absolutely not what happened.

I can’t see that being the case. Matos was in the stands and there’s a saying about first impressions counting. I’m with you, any player who deliberately downs tools needs kicking out.

 

[Cooperman]

I wouldn't say we didn't want the result today, more that tactically we are all over the place. Plus the players know he was on his way out and maybe they have lost all faith in the Sheehan/O Dea era tactics. It ea very much a end of Williams days feel to it. Players could see writing on the wall.

This is more like it. Our starting XI, shape and tactics were all over the place.

 

[PenlanJack]

I can’t see that being the case. Matos was in the stands and there’s a saying about first impressions counting. I’m with you, any player who deliberately downs tools needs kicking out.

Have you been watching us this season.. they can't be bothered in the night games, clear as day.. and today they're happy to pick up their pay check.. some players have the mentality to improve, some don't give a f*ck, way of the world

 

[Londonlisa2001]

I can’t see that being the case. Matos was in the stands and there’s a saying about first impressions counting. I’m with you, any player who deliberately downs tools needs kicking out.

Well I would have thought the same re Matos.

There have been a few times this season where they just don’t look like they much care though. And that post from Benson doesn’t scream squad togetherness to be honest. Hopefully it’s only him and we can just get rid.

 

[Swans Jack]

Well I would have thought the same re Matos.

There have been a few times this season where they just don’t look like they much care though. And that post from Benson doesn’t scream squad togetherness to be honest. Hopefully it’s only him and we can just get rid.

Benson for me has screamed self entitlement player from day 1. His post has shown me a player who thinks he is better than he is. He has shown very little to be given any opportunity. Players like this can do one.

 

[tardylum]

All the players who have played look like they are giving a normal amount and there is no sign of laziness or players not caring. I am more worried by their talent than their effort and if any more than one or two have shown they are anything out of the ordinary for this league. Especially the players in attacking positions.

 

[sit_down_jack]

The reality is, football is a confidence game and these boys look shot of it at the moment. That’s what I saw today more than downing tools. You can see they care. After the first goal, Idah got a hammering from Burgess (I think) for not challenging for the ball.

Effort is the one thing I’d say we’ve not been short of under Sheehan.

 

[Woody Woodpecker Song]

The reality is, football is a confidence game and these boys look shot of it at the moment. That’s what I saw today more than downing tools. You can see they care. After the first goal, Idah got a hammering from Burgess (I think) for not challenging for the ball.

Effort is the one thing I’d say we’ve not been short of under Sheehan.

Todays performance reminded ne of the Cardiff game under Duff totally unacceptable.

Not a single yellow in a 3.0 battering says it all.

If it were not for Burgess and his 2 blocks plus a sitter they missed it could easily have been 6.

No way the players gave everything today looked to me as if they couldn't give a toss.

 

[Swans Jack]

The reality is, football is a confidence game and these boys look shot of it at the moment. That’s what I saw today more than downing tools. You can see they care. After the first goal, Idah got a hammering from Burgess (I think) for not challenging for the ball.

Effort is the one thing I’d say we’ve not been short of under Sheehan.

Yep. 100%. Think they have started to lose confidence. Again it was same under Williams. He kept telling them what he is doing will work and they lost faith. The efforts are there but confidence is gone. Burgess had a go at Idah for not stopping the first goal

 

[Longlostjack]

It’s only a million if he delivers success.

Exactly.