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Coronavirus- new spike coming?

And 2988 new cases today suggest it is on its way
 
Swanjaxs said:
Professor said:
And 2988 new cases today suggest it is on its way

A big rise in positive test in Wales the past 48 hours too, very worrying

Complacency.

Get the pubs closed.

Shut facebook down.
 
sainthelens said:
1 in 2 million chance of dying from covid, yet 1 in 3 of dying from cancer. 500 deaths a day from cancer in this country....how many from covid?
May sound flippant, but enough is enough now.

Are those Covid odds correct?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/crunching-numbers-real-risks-dying-covid-19/
 
the_oracle said:
sainthelens said:
1 in 2 million chance of dying from covid, yet 1 in 3 of dying from cancer. 500 deaths a day from cancer in this country....how many from covid?
May sound flippant, but enough is enough now.

Are those Covid odds correct?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/crunching-numbers-real-risks-dying-covid-19/

No. That equates to 60 deaths. 1 in 3 is correct for cancer, but in many cases this is in elderly populations. Cancer gets more likely with age as how our cells regulate deteriorates with age .
 
3 died from Covid in the UK today, probably between at least 100 and 500 for each of the following Heart Attacks, Cancer with many more Cancer death`s to come in the not to distant future because of no early diagnosis because of the neglect due to the nhs etc concentrating sorely on Covid , then you have the ones who who died from a bad dose of flu probably a lot more than 3, the list is endless. :roll: meanwhile in Sweden where they refused to lock down and continue normal medical care saving the lives of an estimated half a million people, now compare that to there relatively low figure of 5000 Covid deaths, also there Covid infection rate has now become one of the lowest in Europe.
 
Professor said:
I think there is genuine concern we are at the foothills of a new spike. The majority of cases are in the under 45s which is reflected in the low death rate (although under the old PHE system would be 98 yesterday- but there is no good answer to a cut off of 28 days or not). The main concerns I see are:
1. Clear rise in cases and a near trebling of the positive test rate which is getting close to 2%
2. Rises in work-based infections
3. Large rise in school age kids-even prior to school returns in England and Wales
4. Impending university return. The US has 50,000 cases associated with universities and colleges.
Some like Texas A and M are over 700.

Local lockdowns are close in Leeds, the NE, Wirral and elsewhere. Be careful, but don’t be scared.
Play fair you are a drama queen of the highest order we must be all doomed, saying that many who are now having to wait crazy amounts of time to see a specialist will be doomed, unless of course you have plenty of money then they can easily fit you in and the waiting list mysteriously becomes non existent.
 
Professor said:
And 2988 new cases today suggest it is on its way

Half a story. Well not even half.
We need context in the form of age demographics, geographical spread, mortality rates, hospital admissions.
 
Sweden eh?

Less than a Sixth of our population and a tenth of our population density. Only Two cities above 500, 000. Not a major international hub. Naturally socially distanced with good social provision and lower poverty. Yet a mortality rate per 100,000 of 57. A bit better than us at 70, but worse than the US and ten times greater than its neighbour across The Bridge Denmark.

Don’t look so good now does it?

And nowhere near the magical Herd Immunity
 
Cooperman said:
Professor said:
And 2988 new cases today suggest it is on its way

Half a story. Well not even half.
We need context in the form of age demographics, geographical spread, mortality rates, hospital admissions.

Still mainly under 45. The danger is bleed into older people. This is happening in Spain. We seem to be following their pattern of a month ago (sadly)
 
Professor said:
Cooperman said:
Half a story. Well not even half.
We need context in the form of age demographics, geographical spread, mortality rates, hospital admissions.

Still mainly under 45. The danger is bleed into older people. This is happening in Spain. We seem to be following their pattern of a month ago (sadly)

It is going to be inevitable unfortunately with the easing of restrictions, the re-opening of pubs was essential for the economy, but a breeding ground for C-19.

Is track and trace going to be successful for implementing local lockdowns when covid starts to take hold again?

We will find out soon enough 🙏
 
Professor said:
Cooperman said:
Half a story. Well not even half.
We need context in the form of age demographics, geographical spread, mortality rates, hospital admissions.

Still mainly under 45. The danger is bleed into older people. This is happening in Spain. We seem to be following their pattern of a month ago (sadly)

And Florida where the average age recently was 35. There isn’t much social distancing in Cardiff city centre late at night, I’m sure it’s the same all over. Doesn’t seem like they are getting hospitalised with it and it’s mainly Birmingham and the north driving the increase I hear. Pubs will be doomed if this carries on
 
The numbers in Wales have spiked over the last week, 98 new cases reported today mostly in the Rhondda Cynon Taff and Aneurin Bevan areas. Fortunately no deaths.

https://public.tableau.com/views/RapidCOVID-19virology-Mobilefriendly/Summary?%3AshowVizHome=no&%3Aembed=true#2
 
MajorR said:
The numbers in Wales have spiked over the last week, 98 new cases reported today mostly in the Rhondda Cynon Taff and Aneurin Bevan areas. Fortunately no deaths.

https://public.tableau.com/views/RapidCOVID-19virology-Mobilefriendly/Summary?%3AshowVizHome=no&%3Aembed=true#2

Yes, the new cases have gone bonkers over the last week or so, without double checking I'm sure Caerphilly was really high..
 
Someone explain who do we trust regarding these numbers? With this Govt seemingly happy to lie and scare the fck outa people at will, I've had a nasty suspicious feeling that something major is not all it seems. I'm not one that has ever been a conspiracy theorist, but something not sitting well with me in all this.
 

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