Energy Costs

[Neath_Jack]

If i left mine on all night / day like some of you, I'd be selling organs within a week :lol:

I probably need to get a thermostat fitted...

Just got home from the football and i can see my breath in the air, in my living room!

 

[Niigata Jack]

If i left mine on all night / day like some of you, I'd be selling organs within a week :lol:

I probably need to get a thermostat fitted...

Just got home from the football and i can see my breath in the air, in my living room!

Put a warmer coat on and a soppy hat mun :lol:

 

[magicdaps10]

Here’s a data point which may be of some use to you or elderly relatives. This is from two comparable days of weather on Thursday and Friday, and the data source is our Hive app which tracks central heating activity to the minute.

Thursday: heating on at 5:45 and basically stayed on until folk went to work and school at 8:30, by which time the house was only just reaching the 18° thermostat target. Heating back on at 4pm when everyone came home, so again warming up a cold house. I think they all went out for an hour or two during mid evening so turned heating off, upon returning home there was another prolonged blast before bed. Total heating on time for the day was 6hrs 50 mins.

Friday: heating on at 5:45 and left on all day. When I came home at around 3pm the house felt relatively warm at the 18° thermostat setting. It stayed that way until we went to bed last night. Throughout the day and in addition to the first big blast at 5:45, there were 12 mini blasts, each lasting about 15 mins. Total heating on time for the day was 5hrs 40 mins.

This is by no means gospel and no two houses / thermostats will behave in the same way. However I hope this can be of use to someone.

That's interesting, it's come out in the last few days that leaving it at a set temp(let's say 18) and leaving it on all day, it doesn't work out cheaper.

Going by what you're saying in your little experiment states opposite.

I have a detached 4 bedroom and we have held back a bit with the heating but we are hitting £10+ a day, I have got to the point that I have told the wife to just crack it on if needed but she is reluctant, the smart meter is constantly looking at us both

We pay quarterly but in the last 3 months our supplier has started taking £177 monthly direct debits out and we will as usual get billed quarterly, told her that we will be in the red come the end if sinter start of spring but will eat back into it when it starts getting warmer as we continue to get £177 direct debit taken out.....they worked that amount out with what we used last year compared to the new prices.

I am luckily to be in a position where I can pay it but it just takes away from my disposable income pot and affects our other joys in life but that just needs to accepted and we push on.

My concern is for those people who are struggling to pay these bills as its becoming absolute ridiculous and highlited more in this cold weather.

Still deciding Wether these smart meters are that good, tells you how much you are using but as it stands I think that I will be watching the meter rather than the TV as there is more movement on that meter compared to the TV lately

 

[Niigata Jack]

That's interesting, it's come out in the last few days that leaving it at a set temp(let's say 18) and leaving it on all day, it doesn't work out cheaper.

Going by what you're saying in your little experiment states opposite.

I have a detached 4 bedroom and we have held back a bit with the heating but we are hitting £10+ a day, I have got to the point that I have told the wife to just crack it on if needed but she is reluctant, the smart meter is constantly looking at us both

We pay quarterly but in the last 3 months our supplier has started taking £177 monthly direct debits out and we will as usual get billed quarterly, told her that we will be in the red come the end if sinter start of spring but will eat back into it when it starts getting warmer as we continue to get £177 direct debit taken out.....they worked that amount out with what we used last year compared to the new prices.

I am luckily to be in a position where I can pay it but it just takes away from my disposable income pot and affects our other joys in life but that just needs to accepted and we push on.

My concern is for those people who are struggling to pay these bills as its becoming absolute ridiculous and highlited more in this cold weather.

Still deciding Wether these smart meters are that good, tells you how much you are using but as it stands I think that I will be watching the meter rather than the TV as there is more movement on that meter compared to the TV lately

Smart Meter's are the Meters, what you got showing you the usage is the in home display monitor, which can be misleading in my experience.

 

[J_B]

I've read articles in the last couple of weeks that recommend both ways of doing it. My own experiments lead me to believe that having the heating off overnight and coming back on at about 8am is cheaper for us according to the smart meter.

 

[J_B]

That's interesting, it's come out in the last few days that leaving it at a set temp(let's say 18) and leaving it on all day, it doesn't work out cheaper.

Going by what you're saying in your little experiment states opposite.

I have a detached 4 bedroom and we have held back a bit with the heating but we are hitting £10+ a day, I have got to the point that I have told the wife to just crack it on if needed but she is reluctant, the smart meter is constantly looking at us both

We pay quarterly but in the last 3 months our supplier has started taking £177 monthly direct debits out and we will as usual get billed quarterly, told her that we will be in the red come the end if sinter start of spring but will eat back into it when it starts getting warmer as we continue to get £177 direct debit taken out.....they worked that amount out with what we used last year compared to the new prices.

I am luckily to be in a position where I can pay it but it just takes away from my disposable income pot and affects our other joys in life but that just needs to accepted and we push on.

My concern is for those people who are struggling to pay these bills as its becoming absolute ridiculous and highlited more in this cold weather.

Still deciding Wether these smart meters are that good, tells you how much you are using but as it stands I think that I will be watching the meter rather than the TV as there is more movement on that meter compared to the TV lately

You will also be getting £66 a month off the government on top of your £177.

 

[monmouth]

Aargh, I just plugged the display in for the first time since the first week I had it and my usage is £9.91 already today. I can't do much more, neither. Thermostat is at 15 or 16 (warm enough now, but can't go lower), rads in rooms we don't use much or at all down at half to keep the house warm, one year old boiler and new double glazing. Some people not so lucky as us will surely have to choose between heat or reasonable and decent food. This is a political choice to let the suppliers and producers off sharing the pain and billionnairs to not pay extra. Despicable and disgusting.

 

[magicdaps10]

You will also be getting £66 a month off the government on top of your £177.

Yeah, been getting that into my bank account
Rather they just take it off the bill personally.

 

[magicdaps10]

Smart Meter's are the Meters, what you got showing you the usage is the in home display monitor, which can be misleading in my experience.

Misleading for the better or worse?
Hopefully showing more

 

[Niigata Jack]

Misleading for the better or worse?
Hopefully showing more

The only things that matter are the reads the actual meters update and send back every 30 minutes.

The monitors are there to support those meters, they are good for telling you how much each appliance cost per Kwh, even then they are just a guide line and not an exact science.

There's been numerous callbacks where customers are complaining that the reads on their monitor doesn't tally with the reads on their actual meters and also stating incorrect amounts of what you owe, some have been in the thousands as well, not arguing that some work well of course but lots are inconsistent.

 

[Resolvenjack]

I think it's probably easier to read your smart meter at the same time every day, deduct old reading from new reading then multiply by your Kwh rate & then add on your daily rate.

 

[WxmJax]

Our radiators are below the windows in the lounge and bedrooms. The curtains just about reach the top of them so a lot of the heat goes behind them and on to the windows.
I've been trying to figure out a way of constructing something that would both deflect the heat into the room and be acceptable for the Mrs. Then I found these and bought one to try.

https://myhomeware.co.uk/product-category/radiator-boosters/

Delivery was quick and trackable and the price included delivery.

We have a different style of radiator but I thought I could adapt it by cutting off the clip fitting at the bottom.

It fits as I was hoping it would with the curtains and so far I'm happy.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Our radiators are below the windows in the lounge and bedrooms. The curtains just about reach the top of them so a lot of the heat goes behind them and on to the windows.
I've been trying to figure out a way of constructing something that would both deflect the heat into the room and be acceptable for the Mrs. Then I found these and bought one to try.

https://myhomeware.co.uk/product-category/radiator-boosters/

Delivery was quick and trackable and the price included delivery.

We have a different style of radiator but I thought I could adapt it by cutting off the clip fitting at the bottom.

It fits as I was hoping it would with the curtains and so far I'm happy.

Buy longer curtains and tuck them in behind the rad, that's what i do on one of my living room ones.

 

[WxmJax]

But she wanted these ones which when fitted were an inch or two short of the required length.

(I'll wait for the obvious reply from someone )

 

[Fbreath]

But she wanted these ones which when fitted were an inch or two short of the required length.

(I'll wait for the obvious reply from someone )

Lower your current rail.