Energy Costs

[exiledclaseboy]

I've got to take notice of it, it's how my bill is generated.

Very good reception for it, wish I hadn't had it installed now mind, purely because I'm looking at it all the bastard time seeing my money flying away...

I’ve not had one for that exact reason. I know I’d obsess over it. Also, I’ve decided that 19 degrees is the optimum thermostat temperature. Takes an hour or two to get to that and then only comes back on for about 15mins every couple of hours when it drops below to get it back up there.

I can’t imagine how people on lower/middle incomes are coping at the moment. They must be terrified. What a country we’ve turned into.

 

[Niigata Jack]

I've got to take notice of it, it's how my bill is generated.

Very good reception for it, wish I hadn't had it installed now mind, purely because I'm looking at it all the bastard time seeing my money flying away...

Compare actual reads at meter to the monitor and lots of them do not tally up to each other, call backs to customers for faulty monitors are far more than frequent, some times meaning a full swap out being needed to to put it back right.
Paygo in particular are notorious for failing.

Not for me, I'm more than happy taking my own reads and uploading them to my energy company.

 

[monmouth]

Cant bring myself to look at mine until this cold snap is done. Had built up a load of credit. Hope it lasts on top of the monthly payment until St Dai’s day, when the heating is going off even if it snows. It’s warm in here at thermostat at 16 degrees thank god. What happens after April to people when it’s ratcheted up again, and it ain’t coming down anytime soon.

 

[monmouth]

I’ve not had one for that exact reason. I know I’d obsess over it. Also, I’ve decided that 19 degrees is the optimum thermostat temperature. Takes an hour or two to get to that and then only comes back in four about 15mins every couple of hours when it drops below to get it back up there.

I can’t imagine how people on lower/middle incomes are coping at the moment. They must be terrified. What a country we’ve turned into.

Mone and the rest need all the money much more mun. Cunts.

Terrified is right. It must be really frightening for so many people. Food prices are multiplying too thanks to the brexshitters, who still perpetuate their pathetic fantasies. Cunts.

 

[Niigata Jack]

Cant bring myself to look at mine until this cold snap is done. Had built up a load of credit. Hope it lasts on top of the monthly payment until St Dai’s day, when the heating is going off even if it snows. It’s warm in here at thermostat at 16 degrees thank god. What happens after April to people when it’s ratcheted up again, and it ain’t coming down anytime soon.

Fuk building up credit on your energy account for the greedy bastards to earn interest on YOUR money.

 

[monmouth]

Fuk building up credit on your energy account for the greedy bastards to earn interest on YOUR money.

It’s a fair point Max.

 

[J_B]

Fuk building up credit on your energy account for the greedy bastards to earn interest on YOUR money.

For the amount involved and the interest rates on savings it’s largely irrelevant.

 

[Niigata Jack]

It’s a fair point Max.

I worked in Smart Metering for virtually 6 yrs, glad I'm out of it, as if crawling under stair cupboards and working out in the rain wasn't enough I had to listen to people's grumbles with which I could only agree with them about, I'd rather stack shelves than go back to that, I'm really happy with what I do now, if this fails I'll go back to busking :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Niigata Jack]

For the amount involved and the interest rates on savings it’s largely irrelevant.

Its still extra in their bin whatever the amount is.

Lots have gone onto Pay as you go, since this energy crisis started and most of my former colleagues the same, not something I've considered myself.

 

[Cooperman]

Here’s a data point which may be of some use to you or elderly relatives. This is from two comparable days of weather on Thursday and Friday, and the data source is our Hive app which tracks central heating activity to the minute.

Thursday: heating on at 5:45 and basically stayed on until folk went to work and school at 8:30, by which time the house was only just reaching the 18° thermostat target. Heating back on at 4pm when everyone came home, so again warming up a cold house. I think they all went out for an hour or two during mid evening so turned heating off, upon returning home there was another prolonged blast before bed. Total heating on time for the day was 6hrs 50 mins.

Friday: heating on at 5:45 and left on all day. When I came home at around 3pm the house felt relatively warm at the 18° thermostat setting. It stayed that way until we went to bed last night. Throughout the day and in addition to the first big blast at 5:45, there were 12 mini blasts, each lasting about 15 mins. Total heating on time for the day was 5hrs 40 mins.

This is by no means gospel and no two houses / thermostats will behave in the same way. However I hope this can be of use to someone.

 

[monmouth]

I was told years ago by a tradesman that it was best to just leave it on rather than piss about trying to time it. In practice I dont tend to do it as wasn’t sure what to believe as there are different views. But is that what you’re concluding from your experiment Coops?

 

[Cooperman]

I was told years ago by a tradesman that it was best to just leave it on rather than piss about trying to time it. In practice I dont tend to do it as wasn’t sure what to believe as there are different views. But is that what you’re concluding from your experiment Coops?

Based on my data, yes. However, the check over only two days means that folk should consider this as a guideline only. I wouldn’t want anyone leaving their thermostat setting at 22° on the assumption that it’s cheaper.

Have done something different today and have had it set 18° from midnight onwards. It’s nearly 3pm, twelve spells of heating so far and it’s a tad short of three hours.

 

[BLAZE]

It's hard to compare like for like on cost because there are so many variables. Personally I don't bother fucking about with complex schedules, I maintain a constant temperature throughout the day - whether I'm home or not. So from 00:00 to 8:00 (through the night) the temperature is maintained at 17°C at the thermostat, and from 8:01 to 23.59 (through the day) it's maintained at 18°C. I leave the heating switched on all year round coz in practice it doesn't kick in at all between April and September (confirmed by my Nest app), but it's there if needed. Id have it a good few degrees colder through the night if I didn't have the dog to consider. This method works at the relatively low temperatures I like the heating at, but if you're trying to maintain a 22°C home then I suspect this strategy becomes uneconomical pretty quickly

My combined gas and electricity bill was £680 last year - around £57 a month. Two bed end terrace with just myself and the dog

 

[exiledclaseboy]

It's hard to compare like for like on cost because there are so many variables. Personally I don't bother f*****g about with complex schedules, I maintain a constant temperature throughout the day - whether I'm home or not. So from 00:00 to 8:00 (through the night) the temperature is maintained at 17°C at the thermostat, and from 8:01 to 23.59 (through the day) it's maintained at 18°C. I leave the heating switched on all year round coz in practice it doesn't kick in at all between April and September (confirmed by my Nest app), but it's there if needed. Id have it a good few degrees colder through the night if I didn't have the dog to consider. This method works at the relatively low temperatures I like the heating at, but if you're trying to maintain a 22°C home then I suspect this strategy becomes uneconomical pretty quickly

My combined gas and electricity bill was £680 last year - around £57 a month. Two bed end terrace with just myself and the dog

I might give that a go. I leave it on at 19 degrees through the day but turn off at night and it’s been Baltic first thing the last few mornings. 17 May be too high overnight though with a menopausal wife so I may give 16 a go.

 

[PSumbler]

I might give that a go. I leave it on at 19 degrees through the day but turn off at night and it’s been Baltic first thing the last few mornings. 17 May be too high overnight though with a menopausal wife so I may give 16 a go.

It's interesting as we debated that one the other day whether it was just more efficient to leave it on 24/7 and let the thermostat sort a consistent temperature rather than the warm from cold scenario which undoubtedly takes more time and therefore more fuel.