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Eom

I think the general agreement amongst Swans fans is that Vigs, Galbraith, and Vip are our best players, and all leading Championship quality, and although I don't disagree, I think Tymon should probably also be in there, and Eom has certainly demonstrated that he can reach that quality, if only in patches.
 
I think the general agreement amongst Swans fans is that Vigs, Galbraith, and Vip are our best players, and all leading Championship quality, and although I don't disagree, I think Tymon should probably also be in there, and Eom has certainly demonstrated that he can reach that quality, if only in patches.
Vigouroux, Galbraith, Tymon and Vipotnik are all top Championship quality and the kind of players that you can build promotion contending teams around.

Stamenic isn't far behind them. Tough to say what I think he needs to add to his game to take it to the next level, if anything I would only say consistency, some games he rules the midfield and cuts through the press and picks out passes like its nothing and other games he retreats right in between the center halves and removes himself as the link between the defense and midfield.
 
EOM’s got bags of talent and his close control is top-tier, but his end product is almost non-existent: A 4% conversion rate is very low. In addition, his decision making is questionable and he just gets bullied off the ball way too easily especially in out of possession situations. The worry is he’s nearly finished two seasons here now and should be well adjusted to the Championship by this point. After his first few games, I thought we were signing a 'G/A' machine, but unfortunately, I’m seriously doubting if he's up to it
 
EOM’s got bags of talent and his close control is top-tier, but his end product is almost non-existent: A 4% conversion rate is very low. In addition, his decision making is questionable and he just gets bullied off the ball way too easily especially in out of possession situations. The worry is he’s nearly finished two seasons here now and should be well adjusted to the Championship by this point. After his first few games, I thought we were signing a 'G/A' machine, but unfortunately, I’m seriously doubting if he's up to it
I think his decision making is actually decent now… he should have far more assists to his name.

Again on Tuesday he went on a lovely run, lay the defender on his arse, tee’d Cullen up perfectly 8 yds out for him to miss.

And as for being bullied… I don’t see that at all any more. Since Matos has come in he’s been so much stronger and aggressive out of possession.
 
I think the general agreement amongst Swans fans is that Vigs, Galbraith, and Vip are our best players, and all leading Championship quality, and although I don't disagree, I think Tymon should probably also be in there, and Eom has certainly demonstrated that he can reach that quality, if only in patches.
This got me thinking.
Where would we place stamanic and Fulton as defensive midfielders in the league.
Top 5 or less?
On their day, they look fantastic
 
I think his decision making is actually decent now… he should have far more assists to his name.

Again on Tuesday he went on a lovely run, lay the defender on his arse, tee’d Cullen up perfectly 8 yds out for him to miss.

And as for being bullied… I don’t see that at all any more. Since Matos has come in he’s been so much stronger and aggressive out of possession.
I see it differently (just and example: his conversion ratio has actually dropped from last season, he shoots more but just can’t put them in the net). After two years at the club, his numbers are not good enough if we are aiming for promotion.
 
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It doesn't matter what Eom does in a Swansea City shirt, it won't be enough for some.

Haters got to hate
 
I see it differently (just and example: his conversion ratio has actually dropped from last season, he shoots more but just can’t put them in the net). After two years at the club, his numbers are not good enough if we are aiming for promotion.

Yes his numbers should be better ,
The eye test for me is he is a better player this season .
Looks as if he's been working out in the gym doesn't get knocked off the ball so easily .
He has improved defensively this season
The Southampton game playing in front of Sam Parker he did well .
He looks more confident now a goal , assist winning a penalty from the last 5 games is proof .
 
Yes his numbers should be better ,
The eye test for me is he is a better player this season .
Looks as if he's been working out in the gym doesn't get knocked off the ball so easily .
He has improved defensively this season
The Southampton game playing in front of Sam Parker he did well .
He looks more confident now a goal , assist winning a penalty from the last 5 games is proof .
Unfortunately seasons aren't decided over 5 games, what are his stats for the previous 39 games ? They are shocking that's what they are, 1 goal and 1 assist i think prior to our last 5 games. We really need our wingers to be contributing more than that. He did the same last season, looked a real threat towards the end of season, when it was too late .
 
The last 5 games shows what he is capable of , he needs to improve his consistency .
How can it be too late ?
 
The last 5 games shows what he is capable of , he needs to improve his consistency .
How can it be too late ?
Because if he performed like the last 5 games for the majority of the season we may have achieved more this season. That's why it's too late, look at his stats and tell me I'm wrong.
 
Nathan Dyer played all 46 games in our promotion season. His stats? 2 goals and 7 assists (4,004 minutes).

Eom has played in 43 games this season and has 2 goals and 5 assists (2,381 minutes).

No-one was questioning Dyer's place in the team that season. Yes it would be lovely for Eom to add more goals to his game, but it's disingenuous to suggest that's the only thing that matters.
 
Nathan Dyer played all 46 games in our promotion season. His stats? 2 goals and 7 assists (4,004 minutes).

Eom has played in 43 games this season and has 2 goals and 5 assists (2,381 minutes).

No-one was questioning Dyer's place in the team that season. Yes it would be lovely for Eom to add more goals to his game, but it's disingenuous to suggest that's the only thing that matters.
This is a fair point and I do think there is probably too much of a fixation on individuals output in terms of goals and assists. Obviously it's important when recruiting players, but the far more important thing is the number of goals scored by the team as a whole.

We're 10-15 goals away from being a playoff side - whether that comes from one winger/attacking midfielder or is shared between 4/5 players is largely irrelevant. It'll be interesting to see whether any of the current players are able to help us bridge that gap next season.
 
That promotion season, how many times did it go something like this:
Rangel - Britton - Dyer - Britton - Rangel - Dyer - Rash tackle - Sinclair scores the penalty.
 
Nathan Dyer played all 46 games in our promotion season. His stats? 2 goals and 7 assists (4,004 minutes).

Eom has played in 43 games this season and has 2 goals and 5 assists (2,381 minutes).

No-one was questioning Dyer's place in the team that season. Yes it would be lovely for Eom to add more goals to his game, but it's disingenuous to suggest that's the only thing that matters.

Wow.

I thought that Eom's contribution wasn't being fully reflected in the stats, but when you put them like that he hasn't done badly at all in comparison, especially when you consider how much more defensive and cagey the game has become.
 
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