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Kier

Niigata Jack said:
c**t is a Tory himself in all but name, he has very similar ideals, that's probably why he hasn't been as robust as he should have been in the commons, guys a fraud.

Say what guy like about him mush but he’s no Tory. He’s not a dyed in the world socialist that’s for sure but Labour hasn’t been a socialist party for decades apart from a brief period under Corbyn during which they lost two elections and condemned us to Johnson, Truss and Sunak. The choice at the next election is fairly binary in most places. Labour is the only party capable of ousting the Tories. If yiu don’t want the Tories yiu have to vote for the candidate in that constituency most likely to beat them, whichever party they happen to represent.
 
exiledclaseboy said:
Say what guy like about him mush but he’s no Tory. He’s not a dyed in the world socialist that’s for sure but Labour hasn’t been a socialist party for decades apart from a brief period under Corbyn during which they lost two elections and condemned us to Johnson, Truss and Sunak. The choice at the next election is fairly binary in most places. Labour is the only party capable of ousting the Tories. If yiu don’t want the Tories yiu have to vote for the candidate in that constituency most likely to beat them, whichever party they happen to represent.

He's clearly right of centre, the hardworking tax payer will see very little difference, you wait and see.

Has for voting, I won't be, none of then are worthy of my time spent in voting, they're are dyed in the wool self centred what's in it from twats just wanting the power and the prestige of being "PM".

They're all multimillionaires and hungry for more wealth, need a new breed of Politicians to bring this country anywhere near to where it should be a mixture of people from all walks of life, people who have experienced real life, not this current lot who have never had to scrimp and save for Christmas or a weeks summer holiday in a grubby caravan at Butlins.

This lot today are riddled with their own greed, that's all they value. :x
 
Not over enamored with him to be fair, thought he had a bit more about him when he arrived on the scene, he's a bit beige.
Having said that, he's got to be better than the incumbent mob, jez, I've never seen the country so divided, the devide between the haves and have nots is cavernous.
The current lot have no empathy, no clue, as to what ordinary folk are going through, and let's not forget most if not all our problems are because of them, they care not, we are disposable. Sooner they fck off the better.
 
Farage is 100-1 as next PM, lump on.

I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here is about money and positioning himself as a real life Simpsons caricature of himself.

The tosspot will be fastracked by the Tories as PM with Dave as his running mate.

Kier, man of the people, will implode. Angela, dear Angel of the North, will show her true intentions too early on and tear the Left apart.

Farage will head up a coalition.

You heard it here first.

Now for another drink and another episode of Borgen.
 
Neath_Jack said:
I'm reading on Twitter that the thoroughly decent, working class hero Starmer, has warned his lot that if they back the SNP ceasefire vote they'll get the sack.

What a despicable c**t he is.

I agree with him.

2 weeks ago Hamas butchered over a 1,000 innocent people and kidnapped over 200. What did people think that the Israelis (left and right) would do? What would we do?

Certainly take pauses to rescue the people, children and babies who are trapped but a permanent cease fire without Hamas releasing the 200 hostages would mean that Hamas won, and can continue with the Hamas policy of oppressing the Palestinian people and working to eradicate Israel.
 
Glyn1 said:
I agree with him.

2 weeks ago Hamas butchered over a 1,000 innocent people and kidnapped over 200. What did people think that the Israelis (left and right) would do? What would we do?

Certainly take pauses to rescue the people, children and babies who are trapped but a permanent cease fire without Hamas releasing the 200 hostages would mean that Hamas won, and can continue with the Hamas policy of oppressing the Palestinian people and working to eradicate Israel.

How do you bomb an idea out of existence, Glyn.
 
With such an emotive subject, they should be given a free vote on it. Make me sick the lot of them and the crooked systems we’ve got in place.
 
Glyn1 said:
I agree with him.

2 weeks ago Hamas butchered over a 1,000 innocent people and kidnapped over 200. What did people think that the Israelis (left and right) would do? What would we do?

Certainly take pauses to rescue the people, children and babies who are trapped but a permanent cease fire without Hamas releasing the 200 hostages would mean that Hamas won, and can continue with the Hamas policy of oppressing the Palestinian people and working to eradicate Israel.

I'm not following the situation as closely as some, but wasn't it widely reported that there was an offer on the table to return all the remaining hostages alive if Israel called a ceasefire? Which was declined by Israel for reasons I'm not going to speculate on.
 
Glyn1 said:
I agree with him.

2 weeks ago Hamas butchered over a 1,000 innocent people and kidnapped over 200. What did people think that the Israelis (left and right) would do? What would we do?

Certainly take pauses to rescue the people, children and babies who are trapped but a permanent cease fire without Hamas releasing the 200 hostages would mean that Hamas won, and can continue with the Hamas policy of oppressing the Palestinian people and working to eradicate Israel.

4500 kids dead

Wtf did they do?

Fuck my eyes
 
Jess Phillips and 8 other Labour bods have resigned.

Now that is what i like to see, people who are willing to stand by their beliefs. Superb.

Huge respect to those.
 
Niigata Jack said:
He's clearly right of centre, the hardworking tax payer will see very little difference, you wait and see.

Has for voting, I won't be, none of then are worthy of my time spent in voting, they're are dyed in the wool self centred what's in it from twats just wanting the power and the prestige of being "PM".

They're all multimillionaires and hungry for more wealth, need a new breed of Politicians to bring this country anywhere near to where it should be a mixture of people from all walks of life, people who have experienced real life, not this current lot who have never had to scrimp and save for Christmas or a weeks summer holiday in a grubby caravan at Butlins.

This lot today are riddled with their own greed, that's all they value. :x

Labour has never gone easier on the taxpayer but it’s how your money is spent that counts. As for wanting something different - wasn’t that Corbyn? That worked.

Funny how labour still get the blame even after not being anywhere near power for well over a decade. Tory propaganda really does work and they know exactly who to target.
 
Pentyrchjack said:
Farage is 100-1 as next PM, lump on.

I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here is about money and positioning himself as a real life Simpsons caricature of himself.

The tosspot will be fastracked by the Tories as PM with Dave as his running mate.

Kier, man of the people, will implode. Angela, dear Angel of the North, will show her true intentions too early on and tear the Left apart.

Farage will head up a coalition.

You heard it here first.

Now for another drink and another episode of Borgen.

Going by recent history, that is nowhere near as ridiculous as it’s initially intended to sound.
 
Why didn't Starmer just give them a free vote? What harm would it have done? Anyone who disagreed with his policy (I don't btw) and who had any balls at all (including Jess Phillips) would have ignored him anyway.
 
Neath_Jack said:
With such an emotive subject, they should be given a free vote on it. Make me sick the lot of them and the crooked systems we’ve got in place.

Absolutely this, but to get there he needed to have defused it all weeks ago. Backed himself into a terrible corner. Handled very poorly from start to finish.

That said, anyone that equates him, for all his evident weaknesses (and Angela Raynor or the rest of the front bench...or what is left of it) with the bunch of venal, criminal, disgusting cunts that comprise the current government needs to give their head a wobble.
 
Neath_Jack said:
Jess Phillips and 8 other Labour bods have resigned.

Now that is what i like to see, people who are willing to stand by their beliefs. Superb.

Huge respect to those.

Both parties are in disarray, you got Sunak pulling knifes out of his back and now Starmer shooting himself in both feet, its shocking and we expecting one of these parties to run the country, out of the fire and into the frying pan, if it wasn't such a shocking worrying state, it would be laughable, better off putting Del, Rodney and their mates in charge of the country, FFS :x :x :x
 

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