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Kim Hellberg

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Michael Duff said and done the same, what a revolutionary he ended up.. I'll say it, and always will.. except the top 5 leagues in the world, all the others don't know what they're doing
Not for me, Duff was clearly more of an off the ball coach who emphasised work-rate, much like Sheehan. Hellberg seems to want to play with the ball and attack quickly. Not an expert on him or anything but it seems completely different to what Duff was doing.
 
Just from looking at articles and what people have said about Hellberg, his style doesn’t sound as patient as Russell Martin. Possession based but faster and with purpose. Just looking at clips of Hammarby, they move the ball much quicker than we do.
Our team will soon put a stop to that sort of malarkey.
 
Win Percentage this season 50%. Average 3 Goals a Game. Likes to Play 4-2-3-1. Number of games as a manager - 169. Number of wins - 79. Hellberg’s likes to control the centre of the pitch, his team will adapt their shape in order to deny control of the central spaces. Also quoted as setting up his current side as the most tactically inventive side in Scandinavia.

Again quoted - In the 2025 season achieved the 2nd highest xG and scored the most goals. They also kept the most clean sheets, managed over 60% possession, had the second highest number of touches in the opposition box and had the most shots on target

Far cry from Sheehan 😂😂😂
 
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I'll say it now this appointment largely has a feeling of underwhelming me

Russell Martin Mk1 (Russell Martin)
Russell Martin MkII (Luke Williams)
Russell Martin MkIII (Alan Sheehan)
Russell Martin MkIV (Kim Hellberg?)

I hope thats wrong but we are continuing I fear on a managerial road that feels the same as the last one. You know, the one that didnt work...

That said I also don't believe he is going to be our next manager
 
I'll say it now this appointment largely has a feeling of underwhelming me

Russell Martin Mk1 (Russell Martin)
Russell Martin MkII (Luke Williams)
Russell Martin MkIII (Alan Sheehan)
Russell Martin MkIV (Kim Hellberg?)

I hope thats wrong but we are continuing I fear on a managerial road that feels the same as the last one. You know, the one that didnt work...

That said I also don't believe he is going to be our next manager

What sort of appointment would you be happy with Phil?

I think Hellberg looks a good fit. Huw Jenkins had a philosophy of only appointing managers who had not suffered failures in their careers to date - he thought it would create a fresh and enthusiastic environment with Managers who are climbing the ladder, rather than those who were on a downward spiral in their careers.

I’d much prefer someone like Hellberg than Mowbray, Corberan, Wagner etc

Hellberg also has 5 years experience as a Manager unlike Sheehan, Williams & Martin who were all inexperienced managers which I think was a main factor of their demise
 
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What sort of appointment would you be happy with Phil?

I think Hellberg looks a good fit. Huw Jenkins had a philosophy of only appointing managers who had not suffered failures in their careers to date - he thought it would create a fresh and enthusiastic environment with Managers who are climbing the ladder, rather than those who were on a downward spiral

I’d much prefer someone like Hellberg than Mowbray, Corberan, Wagner etc

Hellberg also has 5 years experience as a Manager unlike Sheehan, Williams & Martin who were all inexperienced managers
That last paragraph is key.

He does have experience even if it’s in a relatively easier environment.

Sheehan was much more of a punt than someone who has five years success as a manager.

I can’t pretend I know much about him but I’m definitely more optimistic. It does feel more fresh than many others are suggesting.

His possession stats are far more in the Martinez//Rodgers area.

Around 60% suggests are more offensive style to say 70% which is a much more negative retention style for example.
 
What sort of appointment would you be happy with Phil?

I think Hellberg looks a good fit. Huw Jenkins had a philosophy of only appointing managers who had not suffered failures in their careers to date - he thought it would create a fresh and enthusiastic environment with Managers who are climbing the ladder, rather than those who were on a downward spiral in their careers.

I’d much prefer someone like Hellberg than Mowbray, Corberan, Wagner etc

Hellberg also has 5 years experience as a Manager unlike Sheehan, Williams & Martin who were all inexperienced managers
? Sousa, Rodgers and Laudrup had all 'failed' before coming to us hadn't they?

Maybe Manning is the answer. He's as well thought of at Narch as Rodgers was at Reading!
 
? Sousa, Rodgers and Laudrup had all 'failed' before coming to us hadn't they?

Maybe Manning is the answer. He's as well thought of at Narch as Rodgers was at Reading!

Rodgers was successful at Watford and then had a rough 6 month spell at Reading - but was still a young coach who had innovative ideas and was not set in their ways. My suggestion was that Jenkins didn’t want to appoint Managers who had been round the block for years with a mix of success/failure throughout their careers without really making a significant impact

Where had Laudrup failed previously before coming to us?
 
What sort of appointment would you be happy with Phil?

I think Hellberg looks a good fit. Huw Jenkins had a philosophy of only appointing managers who had not suffered failures in their careers to date - he thought it would create a fresh and enthusiastic environment with Managers who are climbing the ladder, rather than those who were on a downward spiral in their careers.

I’d much prefer someone like Hellberg than Mowbray, Corberan, Wagner etc

Hellberg also has 5 years experience as a Manager unlike Sheehan, Williams & Martin who were all inexperienced managers which I think was a main factor of their demise
Ideally for me just someone who breaks the mould of playing a way of football that doesn't match our recruitment strategy

its a fair point about he 5 years experience though
 
I'm on the fence with Hellberg seeing that we didn't appoint him last time, but he certainly looks the job on paper. He's also much less possession-obsessed than Martin/Williams, as seen with his versatility at Varnamo, and seems to be much more adaptable to the squad he has, rather than a 'one tactic fits all' approach used by basically every manager we've had this decade.

Vital on Twitter has retweeted some Swedish fans talking about his style of play, and it seems much more in keeping with who we have
 

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