Martin holds the exit door open for Obafemi and Paterson

[JackSomething]

I still have no idea what point you are making.

Are you suggesting it’s okay to mismanage players as long as they aren’t good enough in your view (not sure how you have come to that conclusion considering we haven’t seen them).

Or it’s okay to fall out with players if they do well when they are allowed back on the pitch?

Or it’s okay to fall out with players if you have other mismanagement issues elsewhere too?

Again, I know for a fact and have been proven right time and time again with my information. You can choose not to believe me if you like, but you are incorrect in refuting what Jack365 is telling you.

But that’s your choice.

Chief can stick up for himself, but just want to address one point as regards Piroe and dropping him for one game. Marcus Rashford is possibly the most in-form player in the league, yet he overslept and the manager dropped him to the bench. He came on at half-time, so there is a slight difference with Piroe, but it's broadly similar. ten Hag has received unanimous praise for how he handled the situation, showing the team that no-one is above the rules, not even the superstar players.

Would love to see evidence of all these times you have been proven right with your information. You just come across like yet another wannabe ITK, throwing plenty of shit at the wall and thinking it proves you legit when one happens to be right. I'm happy to be corrected if you have examples of course.

I don't think Martin is a good manager and will happily see him gone in the summer, barring an extremely unlikely huge upswing in our form for the rest of the season. Having said that, those who want to criticise him for absolutely everything (like the Piroe situation) are just as weird as those who think he walks on water (who are all on Twitter apparently as I've never seen anyone express that opinion).

 

[TheGoodDoctor]

Chief can stick up for himself, but just want to address one point as regards Piroe and dropping him for one game. Marcus Rashford is possibly the most in-form player in the league, yet he overslept and the manager dropped him to the bench. He came on at half-time, so there is a slight difference with Piroe, but it's broadly similar. ten Hag has received unanimous praise for how he handled the situation, showing the team that no-one is above the rules, not even the superstar players.

Would love to see evidence of all these times you have been proven right with your information. You just come across like yet another wannabe ITK, throwing plenty of s**t at the wall and thinking it proves you legit when one happens to be right. I'm happy to be corrected if you have examples of course.

I don't think Martin is a good manager and will happily see him gone in the summer, barring an extremely unlikely huge upswing in our form for the rest of the season. Having said that, those who want to criticise him for absolutely everything (like the Piroe situation) are just as weird as those who think he walks on water (who are all on Twitter apparently as I've never seen anyone express that opinion).

You mean like the time I broke the Pato being dropped story before he was and before anyone mentioned it on any media?

You mean like the time I broke team news days before it happened?

You mean like the time I broke the Pato and Obafemi lateness story before it became common knowledge?

Would probably be better to point out the information I got wrong. Although I wouldn’t waste your time personally. I only deal in facts.

As for Piroe, he didn’t sleep in. He didn’t agree with the way Martin wanted the team to play, as a result he made him train on his own, stripped him of the number 9 and dropped him.

For his own career (despite his dad wanting to ship him out there and then) he went along with it and didn’t give his views anymore.

The result of which got us a wonderful 15th position. Legend.

I certainly won’t be losing any sleep if you don’t believe me. Stand back and watch him continue to fall out with players if you like, no skin off my nose.

 

[JackSomething]

You mean like the time I broke the Pato being dropped story before he was and before anyone mentioned it on any media?

You mean like the time I broke team news days before it happened?

You mean like the time I broke the Pato and Obafemi lateness story before it became common knowledge?

Would probably be better to point out the information I got wrong. Although I wouldn’t waste your time personally. I only deal in facts.

As for Piroe, he didn’t sleep in. He didn’t agree with the way Martin wanted the team to play, as a result he made him train on his own, stripped him of the number 9 and dropped him.

For his own career (despite his dad wanting to ship him out there and then) he went along with it and didn’t give his views anymore.

The result of which got us a wonderful 15th position. Legend.

I certainly won’t be losing any sleep if you don’t believe me. Stand back and watch him continue to fall out with players if you like, no skin off my nose.

Any evidence to support all those claims?

Stop changing your argument. We're discussing Piroe, not the team as a whole. The fact of the matter is that after he was dropped, for whatever reason, he came back into the team and had a 20+ goal season. So making out that Martin's actions were somehow wrong is a nonsensical argument in this case, as the results show otherwise.

Honestly, this is getting like the Harry and Meghan stuff. I don't like Martin, or those two, but the sheer amount of nonsense vitriol some people throw their way has to be addressed.

 

[Nocountryforoldjack]

Yeah just stick to the fact that he's a fraud of a manager