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Martin's Press Conference

dickythorpe said:
He said something before the game along the lines of " I wasn't the owners first choice".......make of that what you will!!!!

Did he? Where did he say that?

He obviously wasn't as that John Eustace was, but I'd imagine that was because he'd be alot cheaper.
 
Risc said:
dickythorpe said:
He said something before the game along the lines of " I wasn't the owners first choice".......make of that what you will!!!!

Did he? Where did he say that?

He obviously wasn't as that John Eustace was, but I'd imagine that was because he'd be alot cheaper.

Thursday I think?
 
tim_healings said:
It’s utterly obvious. Both potter and cooper jumped ship having dealt with the owners for some time. If they had fronted up some funds for cooper to get a decent striker we’d probably have gone up and their investment would have grown enormously. This is the issue that riles me the most, they are running the show in a frugal business manner, but they’re crap at it. They undervalue our assets and bend over when a ‘bigger’ club comes calling and are that incompetent they can’t recognise an opportunity to grow and progress when one’s staring them in the face. Honestly I think they’re thick as s**t!


The club is rotten to the core and the blame lies squarely at the feet of the owners. Sad times.
 
A4Jack said:
When he says "I'm the only one who speaks to you" it speaks of a very disjointed club and one he doesn't particularly want to be at. His demeanour is terrible and it sounds like he's desperate to get out IMO

Agree, the change in his attitude at press conferences is noticeable. He seems less in control and appears frustrated, guarded,defensive repeating statements like 'this is what we were brought in to do" and not just a quick fix but foundations for the future.
He looks totally bewildered, and imo obviously doesn't accept that expectancy here is different to League 1

I don't think it will happen now, but wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if he walks.
 
He’s feeling the pressure and the owners aren’t sharing that burden with him, he’s made his bed and is gonna find it harder to get out of it, he’s had money last summer and in January and 2 mill + this summer.
 
Apparently the players haven't trained this week, I find that hard to believe myself.
 
Niigata Jack said:
Apparently the players haven't trained this week, I find that hard to believe myself.

Nah the metrics came back that they shouldn't train, next week Rusco will be reading the tea leaves to see what they reckon.
 
I don’t really get the implication he’s not been supported. The three (very ordinary) MK Donners that he has insisted on, he has got, to no real visible benefit. That has probably cost us about 4m when you add in wages. We didn’t even try and develop the likes of Benda, B Cooper or Garrick/the other bloke I’ve forgotten the name of. I’m not saying they are the answer but they would have been millions cheaper and I can’t really see how we’d be much worse off.
 
tim_healings said:
It’s utterly obvious. Both potter and cooper jumped ship having dealt with the owners for some time. If they had fronted up some funds for cooper to get a decent striker we’d probably have gone up and their investment would have grown enormously. This is the issue that riles me the most, they are running the show in a frugal business manner, but they’re crap at it. They undervalue our assets and bend over when a ‘bigger’ club comes calling and are that incompetent they can’t recognise an opportunity to grow and progress when one’s staring them in the face. Honestly I think they’re thick as s**t!

It’s austerity. And we’ve seen what that did to the UK.

It might not necessarily be the owners fault, in that the game could just be too expensive for them. I suspect they thought they’d make a quick buck (no doubt that’s how it was sold). If that’s the case and they can’t afford to run us, they need to find us another owner.

I’m not expecting them to spend obscenely, as Derby did for example. But if we can’t even afford to fund a basic squad they need to go. As soon as possible.
 
Many people I think do no understand the position of the owners. They bought Swansea for several million on behalf of an investment group. Swansea got relegated, the capital value of that investment has tanked, but they don't have to own up to that loss until they sell, and as American sports doesn't do relegation their investors generally will not have fully worked it out for themselves. So what they have to do is generate enough profit so that the income their investors receive looks OK and they don't start pulling their funds. In the meantime Kaplan and Levien will be depreciating the capital value as hard as they can go, so that when they eventually sell they don't get punished by their investors. Swansea remaining mid-table Championship will do for that purpose, for now.

The upshot of this is that there is absolutely no money for investment, the owners are in damage limitation mode with definitely no risk taking, and it will stay that way until they sell. For example, if it comes to it, spending money to get out of League One would so far from their thinking as to not even be worth reading the memo. Spending money to get into the Prem if it's nailed on, but they would want 'nailed on'.
 
monmouth said:
I don’t really get the implication he’s not been supported. The three (very ordinary) MK Donners that he has insisted on, he has got, to no real visible benefit. That has probably cost us about 4m when you add in wages. We didn’t even try and develop the likes of Benda, B Cooper or Garrick/the other bloke I’ve forgotten the name of. I’m not saying they are the answer but they would have been millions cheaper and I can’t really see how we’d be much worse off.
 
monmouth said:
I don’t really get the implication he’s not been supported. The three (very ordinary) MK Donners that he has insisted on, he has got, to no real visible benefit. That has probably cost us about 4m when you add in wages. We didn’t even try and develop the likes of Benda, B Cooper or Garrick/the other bloke I’ve forgotten the name of. I’m not saying they are the answer but they would have been millions cheaper and I can’t really see how we’d be much worse off.

Bang on. Polar opposite of Bren. How much does it cost to send a walking stick to Leicester with a postcard of the Gower?
 
RodgerTheDodger said:
Many people I think do no understand the position of the owners. They bought Swansea for several million on behalf of an investment group. Swansea got relegated, the capital value of that investment has tanked, but they don't have to own up to that loss until they sell, and as American sports doesn't do relegation their investors generally will not have fully worked it out for themselves. So what they have to do is generate enough profit so that the income their investors receive looks OK and they don't start pulling their funds. In the meantime Kaplan and Levien will be depreciating the capital value as hard as they can go, so that when they eventually sell they don't get punished by their investors. Swansea remaining mid-table Championship will do for that purpose, for now.

The upshot of this is that there is absolutely no money for investment, the owners are in damage limitation mode with definitely no risk taking, and it will stay that way until they sell. For example, if it comes to it, spending money to get out of League One would so far from their thinking as to not even be worth reading the memo. Spending money to get into the Prem if it's nailed on, but they would want 'nailed on'.

I think many people fully understand what you've explained there, but it doesn't mean anyone should like the situation or have sympathy for them considering their and the sellouts words to justify selling to them.
 
I’ve had a few and have admittedly only skimmed across many of the comments here so apologies if I ramble some cider nonsense in this post. At these times of night I often suffer from an affliction I refer to as ‘wandering brain’.

Anyway I digress, while I will continue to moan about the clinical business fashion in which the club is run by these owners I’m not daft enough to expect an owner who’s happy to throw millions at a project. What I do expect though, is owners who are well informed and engaged enough to understand the market in which they are operating and the true value of our assets.
The sales of rodon, roberts et al demonstrate to me that they have no idea how to drive a hard bargain and attain market value for our assets. I then struggle to accept the notion that we’re so hard up that we have to sell/offload before we can buy. WTF, if they were better at generating the income (basic business principle) we wouldn’t be struggling to recruit in the fashion we are!

Sit down, open another bottle of wine!
 

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