New Manager

[Swans Jack]

He’s repeatedly said it has to be right for the club and him if it came to that, I wouldn’t say it’s 100% likely he’d even take the position full time if the club ain’t going to be in line with his philosophy and style as he knows deep down the club want someone who offers possession football, he may use this as a platform to get himself a position elsewhere.

Good call. I think if he keeps performing well and he doesn't get the role he will move on at some point. He is playing down things in relation to wanting the role, but he knows like all of us he has to prove it and what is best. It's really difficult one to call. Some great comments on here. Honest I couldn't call it. But at this time I would take him. Would I say this is we was still losing all the time and performance wasn't there?? But it's more to it than that. Anyone who can turn around Williams destruction and keeping the ship on the water is right for me.

 

[crazedbison]

For me it all comes down to who the alternative might be.

If we’re talking about someone on the upswing with some pedigree, maybe we consider that person over Sheehan.

However, I’d rather have our own lad who’s already proven he can win (albeit 2 small sample sizes). Seriously, Sheehan has the right attitude, the players show up for him, and he has been getting results. Unless Mourinho fancies us over the backwaters of Asia, I don’t know that we end up with much better than Sheehan.

 

[magicdaps10]

10 games to go and safety nearly there, you could say that Sheehan gets it until the end of the season and assess from there- I am in this camp plus there will be more managers available.

Or

We get someone in, they can assess the team and players with a handful of so games left.


Footballs funny, I read some clowns say that the new Plymouth manager would be a good option because he is good on camera and is doing well-based on the cup run obviously but yet they have fallen back into their regular performances.
You have to be careful selecting or making opinions when a new manager comes in.......eventually it settles down from it's initial new manager bounce.

 

[monmouth]

Anyway, win the next 10 and it’s playoffs?

 

[Itchysphincter]

Sheehan should be protected by the club given his ability to steady a sinking ship. Making him manager will inevitably lead to giving him the sack when (not if) the wheels fall off, and who steadies the ship then?

He should be given an important and well paid coaching position outside of everyday first team responsibility, like a modern day Curt. That way he he can step in again when the next copy and paste no-hoper fucks it up.

 

[RodgerTheDodger]

Sheehan should be protected by the club given his ability to steady a sinking ship. Making him manager will inevitably lead to giving him the sack when (not if) the wheels fall off, and who steadies the ship then?

He should be given an important and well paid coaching position outside of everyday first team responsibility, like a modern day Curt. That way he he can step in again when the next copy and paste no-hoper fucks it up.

He wants to manage a team. If does well in the last 10 and Swansea don't keep him on, he will go elsewhere, as a manager who now has 'EPL credentials'.

I dread the Board bringing in a new wunderkind who rapidly finds that the team can't play his system and retreats into a defensive borefest of holding the ball on the back line - and the results that brings.

The game has moved on and possession football has adapted to be much quicker, no longer exclusively on the floor because that no longer works, and accepting more frequently losing the ball. If you want to keep "The Swansea way", it needs some serious revisions to be successful. What I see from Sheehan so far is very close to what that needs.

 

[Itchysphincter]

He wants to manage a team. If does well in the last 10 and Swansea don't keep him on, he will go elsewhere, as a manager who now has 'EPL credentials'.

I dread the Board bringing in a new wunderkind who rapidly finds that the team can't play his system and retreats into a defensive borefest of holding the ball on the back line - and the results that brings.

The game has moved on and possession football has adapted to be much quicker, no longer exclusively on the floor because that no longer works, and accepting more frequently losing the ball. If you want to keep "The Swansea way", it needs some serious revisions to be successful. What I see from Sheehan so far is very close to what that needs.

He’s pragmatic and circumstances dictate that that is what we need now, he’s a firefighter. If he doesn’t want stay if can’t be the manager let him go.

Re possession football - when we were good at we had better quality footballers. It could still work but any manager who thinks possession football means giving the worst footballers in your team - ie, Nathan Wood, Cabango, Darling, etc, most of the ball instead of players like Franco, Allen, Grimes, etc, is a fucking idiot.

 

[RodgerTheDodger]

He’s pragmatic and circumstances dictate that that is what we need now, he’s a firefighter. If he doesn’t want stay if can’t be the manager let him go.

Re possession football - when we were good at we had better quality footballers. It could still work but any manager who thinks possession football means giving the worst footballers in your team - ie, Nathan Wood, Cabango, Darling, etc, most of the ball instead of players like Franco, Allen, Grimes, etc, is a fucking idiot.

Spain have given up trying to make 'keep it on the floor' football work, so has everyone else who actually wins. The counters are simple, easy and well known. You can keep it on the floor for long periods, but you have to be prepared to chip and use movement. That's what Laudrup did when he was actually interested in managing the team. Celtic don't keep it on the floor all the time either, so Brendan has updated his approach.

 

[Itchysphincter]

Spain have given up trying to make 'keep it on the floor' football work, so has everyone else who actually wins. The counters are simple, easy and well known. You can keep it on the floor for long periods, but you have to be prepared to chip and use movement. That's what Laudrup did when he was actually interested in managing the team. Celtic don't keep it on the floor all the time either, so Brendan has updated his approach.

Football evolves, it’s not either or. When Wenger came to the PL it was a revelation but within the decade other top managers like Fergie had adapted and Wenger became less effective. That’s all that’s happening, and it always happens, and at some point in the future the circle will be complete again.

There’s no problem in adapting a possession style, the wheel doesn’t continually need to be reinvented.

 

[Gors Buster]

Dicky Muff just been sacked by Huddersfield.

 

[Itchysphincter]

Dicky Muff just been sacked by Huddersfield.

Ferdie

 

[bakajack]

Football evolves, it’s not either or. When Wenger came to the PL it was a revelation but within the decade other top managers like Fergie had adapted and Wenger became less effective. That’s all that’s happening, and it always happens, and at some point in the future the circle will be complete again.

There’s no problem in adapting a possession style, the wheel doesn’t continually need to be reinvented.

When we rose through the leagues we were a novelty and a rarity in playing a possession based game. Most sides outside the premier league had little idea how to defend against it.

Since then many other clubs tried to copy the Swansea city model with varying degrees of success. That gave more teams reasons to learn how to counter the style of play.

Eventually Spain and pep became the poster children for the possession tiki taka style and every manager who fancied himself as the next coming thought they could emulate it even without the players who could handle that style of play.

That led to even more reasons and experience in facing that play style. The reality is that slavishly adhering to a possession game that was “solved” 4 or 5 years ago will almost always end in tears.

Now the popular style is the gegenpress. Not only does it eat a half assed tiki taka style for lunch it’s also much easier to coach and allows more freedom for individual flair in attacking situations.

 

[Andrew - North Hill]

10 games to go and safety nearly there, you could say that Sheehan gets it until the end of the season and assess from there- I am in this camp plus there will be more managers available.

Or

We get someone in, they can assess the team and players with a handful of so games left.


Footballs funny, I read some clowns say that the new Plymouth manager would be a good option because he is good on camera and is doing well-based on the cup run obviously but yet they have fallen back into their regular performances.
You have to be careful selecting or making opinions when a new manager comes in.......eventually it settles down from it's initial new manager bounce.

Trouble with option 2 is half the squad are off in summer, so there's no real value to letting him have a look at them.

Right now I'm inclined to just carry on as we are. Don't rush it, we don't even have to make an announcement about Sheehan being until end of season, just let it run on the current basis, keep the players guessing and on their toes. We know what they're like when they get too comfortable they go on long losing runs, so let them squirm until May, it's probably the kick up the arse they need.

 

[Neath_Jack]

Getting us playing well, keeping clean sheets and picking up results isn't making a good case for the job?

He's probably put himself ahead of your run of the mill applicants we've undoubtedly got.

My view is that a lot of our fans are holding out hope for someone who doesn't exist

There’s quite a few supporters who will take pleasure in us getting an hammering soon. They told us so, Watson link, I know something you don’t know etc.

He’s in charge until the club find a suitable mananger. If he keeps winning the way he is, then it would be insanity not to consider him. I don’t have any faith in this lot appointing a tidy manager anyway so whatever.