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Next PM?

dickythorpe said:
Would Rory Stewart come back ?

You have to be an MP Dick

Here's an interesting take from somewhere else

"As I understand it, he has resigned as leader of the Tory party. He has spoken to HMQ and informed hr ‘as a courtesy’ as he remains PM. So we need to be a bit careful here because he is trying a final (hopefully final) bit of shithousery. This does involve a bit of a hole in the constitutional fairy dust. It and he needs stamping on."
 
Best_loser said:
Sunak is very smart , Goldman Sachs don't employ idiots but the Tory membership is full of ex ukip and far right ex supporters so I'm not sure they will vote for an Asian , they will want a brexiter still , one untarnished by recent events and that's penny mordaunt , if she wants it

Whoever gets it will be hoping to limit the damage at the next election , things are not going to improve much , people blame the government when their lives have got worse , most likely result will be a hung parliament , it will be the lib dems who facilitate that , labour and the lib dems need to work together


Smart doesn't equal good. Sunak is not a good man. We need a good person who is smart, someone who has the interest of the nation at heart.

Conservatives as a fundemental rule have the interest of themselves and the financial elite at heart. It's undesputable fact and has it's place in the cycle of British politics. Now it is time for Labour to have a turn, who will also ultimately fail, but the country will go through a period of repair and recover before they bankrupt the country again and fall to internal fighting. The only difference is that the pain will be distributed in a fairer, more equal manner, which is what the country needs at the moment. We can be united against the government instead of divided against them.
 
Best_loser said:
Sunak is very smart , Goldman Sachs don't employ idiots but the Tory membership is full of ex ukip and far right ex supporters so I'm not sure they will vote for an Asian , they will want a brexiter still , one untarnished by recent events and that's penny mordaunt , if she wants it

Whoever gets it will be hoping to limit the damage at the next election , things are not going to improve much , people blame the government when their lives have got worse , most likely result will be a hung parliament , it will be the lib dems who facilitate that , labour and the lib dems need to work together

" labour and the lib dems need to work together"

I've always been left of centre and voted Labour unless there was a tactical reason to do otherwise. However, over the last decade or so, what I have definitely become rather than a Labour supporter is an anti-Tory and even more so in the last 3 years of this scumbag's reign. As this latest government disintegrates before our eyes, my feelings now are that more or less any price to prevent the Tories from ever having absolute power again is probably worth paying. To put this into a practical plan, in my opinion, can only mean proportional representation. In other words, I'm willing to sacrifice the possibility of Labour ever having overall control to ensure that the Tories never do. So, if in the next GE the Tories do not have overall control, I want all the centre and left of centre parties to actively propose PR and once passed, the Tories can never reverse the decision if they never get overall control again. Hopefully, all those non-Tory parties will come to a similar conclusion and get it done. If I'm lucky, I've probably only got another 20 years left at best but I would want my children and grandchildren to live in a country that will never, ever again have to go through anything like the last 3 years with someone like the outgoing despot in charge.
 
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CurtessECarr said:
:lol: Rees Mogg. A face for leadership.

Now he is a reason and a problem that any savvy Tory would realise is a problem of their image .

Totally out of touch with the struggling British public, awfully rude, snooty and holds elitist views from a bygone age that doesn't exist in today's society.

He needs eradicating.
 
Boris will be as good as caretaker as Ian Huntley
 
dickythorpe said:
Would Rory Stewart come back ?

It would be great if he did and won the job, but I cannot see him coming even remotely close, being more of a centre ground, reasonable type rather than a drooling, knuckle dragging Brexiteering goon, which is the typical Tory cabinet member and back bencher.....ex pro Euro Tory MPs no longer exist....unfortunately...
 
Ebo said:
Boris will be as good as caretaker as Ian Huntley

Well he's not going anywhere. He hasn't resigned at all yet. Just some vague stuff that he can reverse ferret if he engineers a crisis where 'he has to stay'. However deluded, that's his plan. Cling on and hope something turns up.

They need him out now or within a few days at most. And they need to stop his wedding party at chequers at the end of July an' all.

They won't. This is all going to get even more dangerous for this country's future.
 
karnataka said:
Best_loser said:
Sunak is very smart , Goldman Sachs don't employ idiots but the Tory membership is full of ex ukip and far right ex supporters so I'm not sure they will vote for an Asian , they will want a brexiter still , one untarnished by recent events and that's penny mordaunt , if she wants it

Whoever gets it will be hoping to limit the damage at the next election , things are not going to improve much , people blame the government when their lives have got worse , most likely result will be a hung parliament , it will be the lib dems who facilitate that , labour and the lib dems need to work together

" labour and the lib dems need to work together"

I've always been left of centre and voted Labour unless there was a tactical reason to do otherwise. However, over the last decade or so, what I have definitely become rather than a Labour supporter is an anti-Tory and even more so in the last 3 years of this scumbag's reign. As this latest government disintegrates before our eyes, my feelings now are that more or less any price to prevent the Tories from ever having absolute power again is probably worth paying. To put this into a practical plan, in my opinion, can only mean proportional representation. In other words, I'm willing to sacrifice the possibility of Labour ever having overall control to ensure that the Tories never do. So, if in the next GE the Tories do not have overall control, I want all the centre and left of centre parties to actively propose PR and once passed, the Tories can never reverse the decision if they never get overall control again. Hopefully, all those non-Tory parties will come to a similar conclusion and get it done. If I'm lucky, I've probably only got another 20 years left at best but I would want my children and grandchildren to live in a country that will never, ever again have to go through anything like the last 3 years with someone like the outgoing despot in charge.

Well said, Dave. The FPTP system has to be totally destroyed to prevent a minority of voters, left or right, ever imposing their choice on the majority again. This system is ruining Britain. It's one of the reasons why I fecked off to Spain, I couldn't stand Britain's idiotic system any more, with the inevitable result of putting arseh*les like Boris into power. It's so nice to live in a civilised country.
 
monmouth said:
Ebo said:
Boris will be as good as caretaker as Ian Huntley

Well he's not going anywhere. He hasn't resigned at all yet. Just some vague stuff that he can reverse ferret if he engineers a crisis where 'he has to stay'. However deluded, that's his plan. Cling on and hope something turns up.

They need him out now or within a few days at most. And they need to stop his wedding party at chequers at the end of July an' all.

They won't. This is all going to get even more dangerous for this country's future.

Whoever is the presenter on LBC about 7pm, said what you and many others are saying is complete nonsense. He explained why it was nonsense and said anyone who is repeating, even people like John Major, are way off the mark.
 
Neath_Jack said:
monmouth said:
Well he's not going anywhere. He hasn't resigned at all yet. Just some vague stuff that he can reverse ferret if he engineers a crisis where 'he has to stay'. However deluded, that's his plan. Cling on and hope something turns up.

They need him out now or within a few days at most. And they need to stop his wedding party at chequers at the end of July an' all.

They won't. This is all going to get even more dangerous for this country's future.

Whoever is the presenter on LBC about 7pm, said what you and many others are saying is complete nonsense. He explained why it was nonsense and said anyone who is repeating, even people like John Major, are way off the mark.
Neath_Jack said:
monmouth said:
Well he's not going anywhere. He hasn't resigned at all yet. Just some vague stuff that he can reverse ferret if he engineers a crisis where 'he has to stay'. However deluded, that's his plan. Cling on and hope something turns up.

They need him out now or within a few days at most. And they need to stop his wedding party at chequers at the end of July an' all.

They won't. This is all going to get even more dangerous for this country's future.

Whoever is the presenter on LBC about 7pm, said what you and many others are saying is complete nonsense. He explained why it was nonsense and said anyone who is repeating, even people like John Major, are way off the mark.

I’ll try and have a listen 👍

I’m sure we all trust Johnson to act honourably and follow precedent and custom. Plus not to do any damage while he remains.
 
He didn’t use the word “resign” today but the process now is exactly that which happened when Cameron and May quit. The difference is they both still had a modicum of respect left which Johnson doesn’t. They’ll truncate the selection process so he’ll be gone sometime next month I reckon. I expected Johnson to go full Trump during his speech this morning. I was vaguely disappointed when it just turned out to be the bog standard Johnson cuntishness.
 
The main issue is that there a couple of dozen junior ministerial posts unfilled for now. And that’s where the bread and butter gets done.
 
Oh and I’ve just read some people seriously suggesting Suella Braverman, the absolute dimmest of the dim, as a decent shout for next PM. Lordy Lord.
 

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