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TerryPHELAN

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Where was it in Saturday? Officially given as 14k, but never that, more like 12.
Proof if ever, that we’ve got a plastic fan base. They were out in force for the Cardiff game, now back in their armchairs supporting their premier league sides.
 
Where was it in Saturday? Officially given as 14k, but never that, more like 12.
Proof if ever, that we’ve got a plastic fan base. They were out in force for the Cardiff game, now back in their armchairs supporting their premier league sides.
Wind yer neck in ffs. We've had 16k every home game last 5 years. People like me have had a titfull...doesn't make us plastics.
 
Where was it in Saturday? Officially given as 14k, but never that, more like 12.
Proof if ever, that we’ve got a plastic fan base. They were out in force for the Cardiff game, now back in their armchairs supporting their premier league sides.
I'm not going to criticise anybody for not going to watch the Swans, it's purely their choice , and the product hasn't been great for a while. Compared to our visitors on Saturday, they probably are not quite a city with as big a population as Swansea, but in fairness to them they do seem to keep their support much better than we do. They always get around the 23-24 thousand supporters turning up and makes our 14 thousand on Saturday look quite shoddy.
 
We all knew attendances would drop after relegation, we knew it would drop year on year if we didn't go back up.
 
I'm not going to criticise anybody for not going to watch the Swans, it's purely their choice , and the product hasn't been great for a while. Compared to our visitors on Saturday, they probably are not quite a city with as big a population as Swansea, but in fairness to them they do seem to keep their support much better than we do. They always get around the 23-24 thousand supporters turning up and makes our 14 thousand on Saturday look quite shoddy.
Regardless of what people think about the Ospreys, there is no denying the fact that a fair percentage of the Welsh population consider rugby as their sport, and those folk won’t entertain going to watch football. Norwich doesn’t have that side attraction.
 
Sorry lads, was in Portugal last week so missed out. You can add another 1 (or 2, if my gf comes) to Bristol City in a fortnight.

In all seriousness, there's basically no reason for casuals to come anymore. We're pepetually in midtable nothing-ness, so even decent fans who are tight for cash (a factor that should be considered more often) won't feel the need to attend most games.

There's an argument to be made that crowds would actually go up if we worse.
 
Regardless of what people think about the Ospreys, there is no denying the fact that a fair percentage of the Welsh population consider rugby as their sport, and those folk won’t entertain going to watch football. Norwich doesn’t have that side attraction.
I partly agree with what you are saying, but think some sides have got a more loyal following than others.
 
It's not about "plastics".

We're no different to any other club, we're as susceptible to a weak local economy as anyone else, and coupled with that the "product" is dull and unentertaining, and has been for the vast majority of the last four seasons.

Football is an entertainment business - it's competing in a market with lots of other things and if it doesn't make itself attractive to people, people will just go and do something else more entertaining instead. Simple as.
 
Play like we did at the weekend consistently then our gates will increase whether we are in the championship or the Premier League. Revert to passing the ball between Grimes and Fulton in order to pad the possession stats then it will stay as it is or even drop.
 
It is a sad state of affairs that the club now is basically back in the same position (or maybe slightly worse) as we were when we got promoted to this division, especially attendance wise. You'd have hoped that playing at this level since 2008 (and this level is absolutely no disgrace for us considering our history), played in the Premier league for so long, won a major trophy and had a European campaign would have tied in a lot more people than it has. That would you'd hope make up for a shortfall in more jaded fans, cost of living crisis etc.

I know the owners aren't the best, and we as a fanbase and trust should never get complacent over ownership but the employees on the ground and vast majority of players do deserve the city and local area's support.

Bigger picture, we've been back in the Championship 6 seasons, in which we've had 1 play off final, 1 play off semi, that great season of football under Potter, a season where we missed out on play offs with a game to go as well as seasons that included the double double.

There are signs that things are going in the right direction under Williams.

Just wish more of the South Wales population could see this.
 

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