Peter's Hollow Pies

[Fbreath]

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[Jack2jack]

For all you pie and pasty lovers have any of bought any of this gear

https://www.primark.com/en-gb/c/collabs/brand-collabs/greggs?page=2

 

[Dr. Winston]

It's noticeable that the trend in Swansea city centre in recent years has been to build accommodation and leisure facilities. Online shopping isn't going away, neither are out of town shopping centres, so it seems a sensible move.

In fairness to them, Swansea Council have improved in a few areas in recent years and this is one of them. They understand the trend and are moving with it for the most part.

A few places have gone all in on retail and will have to hurriedly convert a lot of it in the next couple of decades.

 

[Professor]

In fairness to them, Swansea Council have improved in a few areas in recent years and this is one of them. They understand the trend and are moving with it for the most part.

A few places have gone all in on retail and will have to hurriedly convert a lot of it in the next couple of decades.

Completely the way forward. Even 'wealthy' cities like Chester have many empty shops. When I was down this summer was quite impressed by the new arena area and the clear moves towards leisure, rather than shops being the main destination for towns and cities.

 

[Dr. Winston]

Completely the way forward. Even 'wealthy' cities like Chester have many empty shops. When I was down this summer was quite impressed by the new arena area and the clear moves towards leisure, rather than shops being the main destination for towns and cities.

For all the grumping I've seen about the amount of student accommodation popping up in town it's a guaranteed way of increasing footfall. It'll be interesting to see what they do with the Debenhams building because that's a huge space. Mixed use would be the way to go I think.

 

[Jack2jack]

For all the grumping I've seen about the amount of student accommodation popping up in town it's a guaranteed way of increasing footfall. It'll be interesting to see what they do with the Debenhams building because that's a huge space. Mixed use would be the way to go I think.

I can see that it may increase footfall during term time. However, once most students go back home, the footfall significantly reduces for a good proportion of the year. The new Arena has helped. Problem is restraunts and bars are generally having a torrid time, due to the stay at home mentality and rise in prices.
The next few weeks are critical.

 

[Dr. Winston]

I can see that it may increase footfall during term time. However, once most students go back home, the footfall significantly reduces for a good proportion of the year. The new Arena has helped. Problem is restraunts and bars are generally having a torrid time, due to the stay at home mentality and rise in prices.
The next few weeks are critical.

Nine months of the year is better than nothing.

Oddly enough hospitality and leisure are both in the few areas that tends to do well during economic downturns. Seems to be the case that people want to treat themselves to some fun when things are shitty. Energy prices are an an unusual addition to the normal trends though.

 

[Jack2jack]

Nine months of the year is better than nothing.

Oddly enough hospitality and leisure are both in the few areas that tends to do well during economic downturns. Seems to be the case that people want to treat themselves to some fun when things are shitty. Energy prices are an an unusual addition to the normal trends though.

Energy price hikes will definitely impact on trends, this is unprecedented, so will be interesting to see the affect. Christmas may well be as normal or as normal as can be, we shall see. Tough times ahead.

 

[JackSomething]

I can see that it may increase footfall during term time. However, once most students go back home, the footfall significantly reduces for a good proportion of the year. The new Arena has helped. Problem is restraunts and bars are generally having a torrid time, due to the stay at home mentality and rise in prices.
The next few weeks are critical.

To be fair, the longest period that students go home is the summer and tourism should help plug that shortfall. Adding more leisure facilities (such as this Skyline thing on Kilvey), should boost tourism and close the gap even more.

The second longest break students have is Christmas, another time of year that retail, leisure, restaurants and bars should see increased demand.

No-one can know what the future will hold, but to me it seems like a combination of more students (Brexit was supposed to be a big issue for this, but not hearing much about that personally), plus a focus on leisure facilities seems to be the smart way to go. I hope I'm right.

 

[Professor]

To be fair, the longest period that students go home is the summer and tourism should help plug that shortfall. Adding more leisure facilities (such as this Skyline thing on Kilvey), should boost tourism and close the gap even more.

The second longest break students have is Christmas, another time of year that retail, leisure, restaurants and bars should see increased demand.

No-one can know what the future will hold, but to me it seems like a combination of more students (Brexit was supposed to be a big issue for this, but not hearing much about that personally), plus a focus on leisure facilities seems to be the smart way to go. I hope I'm right.

The student pound is a big thing-Liverpool has close to 70,000 students across its universities. Increased postgraduate numbers are better as they are around all year. It's not all booze and kebabs these days-many don't drink and coffee houses and restaurants are as important as bars.

As regards Winston's point-Liverpool Debenhams is being converted to leisure including indoor crazy golf, bowling and go-karting. Chester's has just been bought, future unknown. The recent success of Liverpool's centre was built on early recognition that retail alone would struggle with the Liverpool One development as much about leisure as retail.

 

[Jack2jack]

To be fair, the longest period that students go home is the summer and tourism should help plug that shortfall. Adding more leisure facilities (such as this Skyline thing on Kilvey), should boost tourism and close the gap even more.

The second longest break students have is Christmas, another time of year that retail, leisure, restaurants and bars should see increased demand.

No-one can know what the future will hold, but to me it seems like a combination of more students (Brexit was supposed to be a big issue for this, but not hearing much about that personally), plus a focus on leisure facilities seems to be the smart way to go. I hope I'm right.

Some good points. Swansea will potentially accommodate 50 000 students at its peak. With this in mind, let's hope theres a queue of retailers waiting in the wings to take advantage of this huge increase in potential customer footfall. Not sure that an indoor crazy golf centre is going to transform the fortunes of Swansea. But there again I'm no retail guru

 

[JackSomething]

Some good points. Swansea will potentially accommodate 50 000 students at its peak. With this in mind, let's hope theres a queue of retailers waiting in the wings to take advantage of this huge increase in potential customer footfall. Not sure that an indoor crazy golf centre is going to transform the fortunes of Swansea. But there again I'm no retail guru

I just pretend to be one. :lol:

 

[Jack2jack]

I just pretend to be one. :lol:

Nice one JS, I wish there is an easy answer. Worlds a changing, just got to adapt.

 

[Jack2jack]

I think I read somewhere that the stall had reopened under a different name but sold similar stuff, not certain though.

Was in the market yesterday, pleased to say, you were quite right. Still there.

 

[Swanjaxs]

Reeds used to be the best pies in Swansea back in the day...